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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] 
On Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 1:17 AM
To: Vaughan Dodd <vaughan.dodd...@msd.govt.nz>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
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Subject: RE: Wayning Window-eyes

Can someone let me know the unsbuscription details for this list please?


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From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+steven.hicks=nhs....@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Vaughan Dodd via Talk
Sent: 19 December 2016 19:00
To: 'Brandon Miller'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Wayning Window-eyes

What is required is for VFO to say something.

Whilst I respect those who ask us to stop the speculation, they appear to be 
missing the evidence.

For example: if a product is basically free, and given that this free product's 
code is still protected - will there be on-going development or will the code 
be released into the public domain?

Given that there are numerous bugs some of which are long standing - will those 
bugs get replaced by other bugs as a new version is released?

Why would anyone - including myself - continue to purchase Window-eyes beynd 
Software Maintenance agreements, which at this stage, are looking unlikely to 
be honoured?

If VFO was annoyed with this enless speculation, why does it not use a listserv 
which it owns to give us some definitive answers to reasonable questions?

I am putting off the moment when I will be forced to agree to use to JFW.  But 
VFO continues to provide JFW UPDATES, BECAUSE IN TRUTH, vfo IS JUST THE FRONT 
FOR THE PREDATORY BEHAVIOURS OF Freedom Scientific.



Vaughan.



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From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+vaughan.dodd001=msd.govt...@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Brandon Miller via Talk
Sent: Monday, 19 December 2016 11:13 p.m.
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com; talk-requ...@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Wayning Window-eyes

All I can definitively tell you is this folks, I work full time professionally 
as an assistive technology instructor with a blindness agency every day. At a 
recent retreat, the thinking throughout the room did most certainly seem to be 
that VFO most likely does have plans to quote unquote, kill off, Window-eyes, 
either now or in the not too distant future. The question I asked was, why are 
we, that is the assistive tech department, going to officially be promoting the 
use of NVDA as a free screen reader, and not Window-eyes? My logic being that 
Window-eyes can also essentially be free as well. That's when several replies 
came back that gave me the distinct impression that Window-eyes'
days may in truth be numbered. I hope that's not the case; I've been a customer 
of Gw Micro since the Vocal-eyes days! Anyone here remember those days? Back 
when it used to be Jaws for Dos, versus Vocal-eyes? I remember when it used to 
be Arkenstone who sold Openbook, not Freedom Scientific. I do feel that Gw 
Micro personnel do need to innovate, and do need to perhaps learn new ways of 
becoming freshly and aggressively competitive. I certainly hope the shark 
doesn't gobble up everybody, yuck!

Brandon Miller

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