J.D. Schmidt wrote: > Lars Aronsson skrev: > >> Alex Mauer wrote: >> >> >>> It also has the problem that ways can easily get reversed, and >>> then the left/right meanings are backwards. >>> >> A bus stop is an attribute on a node (highway=bus_stop) in the >> middle of a way. If I want to indicate that this bus stop is on >> one side of the street, left and right don't matter much, since >> there can be two ways both pointing towards the node. It would be >> better to use the words north, east, west or south. If the way >> goes from south-west to north-east, then "north" and "west" both >> mean the left side of that way. >> >> >> > > Shall we paint the outhouse red, green or blue ?? > > It doesn't matter if the busstop is on the right or left side of the > road... Neither OSM wise, nor in the real world. In the real world you > use your eyes and see the busstop. With regards to OSM, you apply a tag > to the node indicating position of the busstop, relative to the road. > I.E : k="placement" v="left|right|middle" > > It doesn't even need to be rendered on the left or right of the road on > the map, but it could be. > > We are not trying to make a virtual copy of the world with the rendered > maps, we are trying to make a fairly accurate visual representation of > the world with the maps, that can be used to orientate and possibly even > navigate around in the real world. > > Compromises are made everyday on the renderings of both our and any > other maps. Thats one of the parts of cartography - Deciding what > compromises to use in order to make a map for a specific purpose. > > So just tag it with common sense, instead of having 2 months of > discussion on the mailing list - Next people will want to set down > subcommittees that need to deliver reports on best practices for mapping > the wastebaskets and their type at the busstops, which then has to go > through a hearing in the OSMF, and put to a consensus vote twice in a > year, before being vetoed by some goat-hearder mapping trails in outer > mongolia, since he doesn't think a wastebasket position should be mapped > at all, if goat-dung positions isn't mapped as well... > > We could call it "Working the EU-OSM way..." > At this moment in time I'm tagging bus stops as separate nodes on the side of ways. Given that the tag is highway=bus_stop I realise this is not correct, but I feel it's important to know on which side of the road that particular stop is. I fill out the ref numbers and of course it matters in which direction a certain bus will use that stop. So I'm glad we're having this discussion and I'm awaiting some consensus, so I can map the bus stops I find correctly from now on.
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