On 22 Apr 2008, at 11:52, Sebastian Spaeth wrote:

> Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> [...]
>> My question to the Mac users out there: Will those Macs be suitable
>> for demonstrating all important aspects of OSM, i.e.
>>
>> * Slippy Map (heard rumours that it runs sub-optimal on Safari,
>>  always loading tiles for all layers instead of current only?)
>
> If you put JOSM on the hard disk anyway, you can just drop the Firefox
> install next to it. It's just moving (drag-n-drop) one directory to
> install it.
>

You could also switch between the browsers to show that OSM plays  
nicely in many browsers. Opera is another browser that could be used  
for this.

>> * JOSM (especially concerned about usability with 1 button mouse)
> Either you use a proper 3-button mouse. You can configure the Apple
> Mouse to be a 2-button mouse depending on where you press it down or  
> you
> hold ctrl down to achieve a right click. Personally, I would accept  
> the
> Macs and pop in a cheap 3-button USB mouse.
>

All Macs now come with the mighty mouse, however it can be tricky to  
get the right click to work, as you have to lift your fingers off the  
left hand side of the mouse. I have even setup my trackpad so that I  
can use it for within JOSM. It's not easy, but it can be done. As  
others have said, have a cheap 3 button mouse as a backup.

>> * Potlatch
> No problem here. Runs smooth. Does it use right-click at all?

Right click in flash only brings up a system menu for Adobe Flash  
settings and about the flash plugin. I believe that developers cannot  
use the right click in flash. (Please correct me if I'm wrong).

>
>
>> Or will I have to install countless helpers, utilities and control
>> panels?
>
> JOSM mouse handling is the most inconvenient thing.
>

If it really was that difficult to deal with OSM on the Mac, something  
would have been done about it by now. There are many Mac users in the  
OSM community (including myself).

Control+mousewheel, will allow you to zoom the screen. I'd highly  
recommend it for the relevant parts of the presentation.

Shaun


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