2009/3/18 Russ Nelson <r...@cloudmade.com>:
>
> On Mar 18, 2009, at 4:53 AM, Lester Caine wrote:
>
>> While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be
>> applauded, many of us are no longer contributing to wikipedia
>> because of
>> their propensity to kill of material that is not 'noteworthy'!
>>
>> On a number of occasions in the past I have linked to articles only
>> later to find the 'censors' message at the end of a link :( and I know
>> we have had this discussion in the past where other OSM contributors
>> have found the same problem.
>
> This is a serious enough issue that it should be escalated to the
> OSMF.  They should make an arrangement with Wikipedia saying: that an
> article linked from OSM to Wikipedia is by definition noteworthy, and
> that that justification cannot be used to delete an article from
> Wikipedia.  There might be other reasons: for example that the
> locations linked between OSM and Wikipedia are in fact not related, or
> the *location* is not worth including in OSM.
>
> If we're going to cooperate with Wikipedia, then they need to
> cooperate with us by not allowing any dangling links.
>


Wikipedia have their whole concept of notability. We have the concept
that if it exists you can map it. This isn't really compatible. If I
map my house (I have done, it's an address, OSM wants that data) and
link it to a page about my house on wikipedia I'd fully expect the
wikipedia article to get deleted on notability grounds. My house is
not notable just because it exists, but it is worth mapping.

It's not just us who might link to a wikipedia page that gets removed
on such grounds. That's wikipedia's problem, not ours, and they seem
quite happy with it.

Dave

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