These should have been to the list ... pigging 'redirect'! Shaun McDonald wrote: > Hi Lester, > > You could take a look at includipedia, which is basically a fork of the > wikipedia to become an inclusive version of the wikipedia.
I have seen that - but it seems to have stalled? I've never been able to navigate it ... http://en.citizendium.org seems to highlight the 'problem' with wikipedia - especially since it's being developed by one of wikipedias founders ;) http://open-site.org is probably more what *I* had in mind, but it does seem to be a bit out of date on key country data :( But the world Fact Book should be the only reference needed for that nowadays. > Shaun > > On 18 Mar 2009, at 08:53, Lester Caine wrote: > >> While the effort being put into links WITH wikipedia are to be >> applauded, many of us are no longer contributing to wikipedia because of >> their propensity to kill of material that is not 'noteworthy'! >> >> On a number of occasions in the past I have linked to articles only >> later to find the 'censors' message at the end of a link :( and I know >> we have had this discussion in the past where other OSM contributors >> have found the same problem. >> >> The bottom line in my mind is that if we applied the same heavy handed >> rubber to OSM that is applied in wikipedia then many people whould have >> walked from here. >> >> All I am probably asking at this point is that links FROM OSM to an >> article should bear some what when an 'editor' gets it into his head >> that the article should be chopped. But that can only be ensured by >> pressure inside wikipedia, and some flag that osm IS linking to it? >> >> In the meantime, the bulk of the links WE need to create at this time >> are to secondary place information, and there are lots of alternative - >> more open - places that we can link to. >> >> https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/index.html >> Freely usable up to date facts ... >> http://www.geonames.org/ - Only really useful as a cross reference? >> OSM search usually gets the location right, but a link back to >> source search would be useful? >> http://www.infoplease.com/atlas/ - ( with advertising :( ) >> http://wikitravel.org - Growing library of local information >> http://www.viovio.com/travel/ - Growing photo gallery >> ( This site would benefit from replacing MapQuest by OSM ;) ) >> http://www.flickr.com/places/ Pictures via place name - roughly >> >> Of cause what would be nice would be a common standard for location >> names, so we can just create new links automatically. I keep returning >> to a nice hierarchic front end for osm, which nowadays is probably just >> a different view on the place search? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
