On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Pieren<pier...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Dave Stubbs<osm.l...@randomjunk.co.uk> wrote: >> As far as I know most of the tools used for reverting currently are >> also public -- the problem being, they're dangerous to use if you >> don't know what you're doing, not at all user friendly, deliberately >> hard to use to make sure you do know what you're doing, and not >> remotely capable of dealing with conflicts. >> >> Dave > > That's where I disagree. We should stop considering 'revert' as > 'dangerous to use if you don't know what you're doing'. It is not more > dangerous as any other edits, it's just a different way to select > elements and modify them. The only difference is that you refere to a > particular state of the dataset (changeset) which might be obsolete > (in which case the 'easy revert' should be aborted) in the same way as > when two contributors work in parallel in the same area. > We cannot say in one side "let the crowd create, modify or delete > elements as easy as possible" and in the other side "make revert hard > to use".
That's not what I meant at all. Reverting isn't dangerous, it's the tool that's dangerous. You can create a very big mess if you don't know what you're doing and you force it through. As many casual users of bulk uploading tools can testify -- it really is a good idea to know what you're doing occasionally. If the tools are easy to use and make it easy to spot you're about to do something really stupid then there's no problem. I'm all for easy revert tools, they just don't exist as yet. > I'm still in favour of having an "easy revert" as a first attempt on > the main site and only provide more complexe tools into editors in > case of conflicts. When someone writes it I'm sure it'll be great. > But you will have to explaine how you deal with the > 145 changesets of RR8 if you have to enter manually each number in > your editor. Manually typing numbers sounds like a crappy interface to me, did someone suggest it? Dave _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
