Komяpa, the OSM Wiki does not have a "binding" character. Winning or losing a vote does not mean that someone has the right to mass-delete data from OSM.
With near certainty it is not illegal for OSM to keep data about military installations in Russia on its servers. It may or may not be illegal for Russians to map these installations; if it is illegal then don't do it. It may or may not be illegal for Russian Pocket Navigation software to display these installations; if it is illegal then don't do it. But there is no reason and no legitimation to remove the stuff from OSM, no matter what the outcome of a vote on the matter is. You are welcome to explain this to those who seem to have made it their goal to "win" the vote. > Second, those strange votes come from PocetGis users community (a > proprietary traffic-jam-aware software for WinCE, that uses OSM data), > which had a "solidarity vote on the problem", when the lead developer > asked everyone "please vote thsi way for our project to live". Really, if they believe that their project will be harmed by showing Russian military installations then they should not do it. If they are using standard OSM tiles then they should stop doing so, and render their own tiles without military installations. As a project we explicitly allow proprietary projects and commercial enterprises to use our tiles (provided they don't make undue amounts of traffic). But if they start to delete things from our data they do not want on their map, just because they cannot afford to render their own tiles, that's something we will not accept. (Can anybody confirm whether the CloudMade style editor can be used to create a style that ignores military landuse? If yes then that would be an option that costs them nothing.) > Also, they (vctos, the lead developer) started some strange topics on > "What is in OSM? Democracy or anarchy? Let here be our democracy". OSM is not a democracy, and does not aspire to be one. > He > says that now the community is controlled by a number of hackers and > wants a voting on strict rules and positions, who will do what. > Seemingly, to be the key person in osm-ru (http://tinyurl.com/ya4tjcc) He can set up a Russian chapter of the OSMF and try to get elected number one. The OSMF is more or less democratically organised and expects the same from local chapters. However, neither OSMF nor local OSM chapters have a say in what goes in the database and what doesn't, with the exception of very few cases where the project itself might be endangered because of edit wars or copyright violations. > If there's somebody who can stop that madness, please do it. Or at > least vote in that voting. I'd say we just ignore them. If they do damage, we revert. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk