Hi,

John Smith wrote:
planned license change (we don't usually go into detail unless of course
someone requests it - we just say that OSM is committed to free and open
licenses always).

Do they understand that may include no attribution in future?

Convincing someone to give you date is a bit like sales. We're not lying to people but we're not trying to scare them either. We're not saying things like: "Do you understand that giving data to us might ruin any future business model you might think of?", and neither to we ask them to read through CC-BY-SA, ODbL, CT & OSMF's articles of association ("I'm sorry but I cannot accept your data before you are perfectly clear about everything...").

Of course if it would be my *intent* to let such a discussion fail because of the license, scaring them away would be easy, with any license. Personally I think the share-alike component has the most potential to scare them ("do you understand that if you re-incorporate any of the good stuff we add into your databases, you will have to license all of them under the following license which has been thought out by a bunch of Americans?").

In Australia, from what I've been told, attribution is a must and
there is no way any government body will accept anything less.

Most people we've spoken to are happy if we can put out a press release that says "XYZ council helps OpenStreetMap" and if we have a Wiki page that confirms it. The would get that even with PD.

Of course YMMV and there will always be hard cases who demand a depth of attribution that even (our fashion of) CC-BY-SA cannot give them. But that's not too bad because we don't depend on Government data; it's just a nice add-on.

Bye
Frederik

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