On Thu, 2010-11-25 at 00:11 +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > 2. The license train has left the station. We've been at this for ages > and there is no viable alternative. We will certainly not throw away > years of deliberations just because a handful of US corporations asked > us to (and imagine the outcry among mappers if we were to do that).
I think you mean 'The license slow-coach has left the station'.. If theres 'no alternative' then what is going to happen at the next stages of the license changeover, where apparently the community will be asked what to do next? I wonder if its a case of 'previous submissions need not submit again', when it comes to asking the community our views. By the way, from a quick glance at the voting process and timeline, it appears the train might have left the station, but no-one was onboard. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Implementation_Plan You'll note that re-licensing only started to occur 12 weeks ago and the voting process had 130 people vote yes (Ive never seen a way to vote no, other than navigating away from the page with a single 'accept' button), hardly a case of left-the-station. I wonder how many people would change their vote, knowing the interests that large companies are getting in OSM, and how many people would be starting to worry about any 'future licence change' clause in CTs, when the projects founder works for the company known for taking over and screwing over other groups with legal avenues and licences. Fortunately from the wiki, the comment: > Note: Licensing Working Group (LWG) is currently primarily focusing on > clarification improvements to the Contributor Terms and resolving > license issues with data donors. leads me to believe that despite what you and others are saying about everything being set in stone and not being able to be changed, is wrong, and the LWG *ARE* seeking to improve and fix the CTs and licence issues. At least it appears one working group is trying to hold the forks together while other individials try and drive the wedge in. > 3. In case you want to go into any kind of detail about the license, > legal-talk ist that way --->. I have no interest in the legal detail of the licence, only interested in talking about the ramifications of the licence on our map data, no matter how many times people try to derail this important issue to a legal mailing list. David _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk