While I would (naturally) support developing better multiple-language
support
for maps rendered from our data, I am very very opposed to providing every-
body with their comfy "virtual" world view.
OSM is about mapping facts, and the fact is that disputed areas are
-disputed-.
Finding a clear scheme for tagging such situations would be far more the
point
than supporting make-believe worlds.
Simon
Am 08.10.2011 12:38, schrieb ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen:
I believe that mediation in this particular problem is impossible.
Ranking based on population numbers will never be recognized by
both parties, as religious inspired politics will never respect a status
quo nor a history.
Once the Jerusalem problem is solved the dispute will continue
on other cities / religions / places in the area.
I think that OSM should develop an official policy towards disputed
- areas,
- regions,
- cities
- languages
and some effort need to be made to suit the rendering based
upon the viewers preferences.
As long as there are disputes on a geographic properties
of a specific area, OSM should allow for a number of versions
doing justice to each recognized political or religious view.
So in case of Jerusalem we should be able to present
a Israel map with Hebrew names as primary to the Israelis.
And at the same time present a different map (possibly with
other borders) to the Palestinians.
More general, we should be able to present a map in each local
language, taking care on all these regional problems
(take for example Lille and Rijssel, the same town in Flemish and
in French)
Our planet is full of disputes, differences like that and we should abandon
the idea of one map fits all.
As a start we may stop render names when the last change is more recent then
say 4 weeks. This will effectively stop rendering based
disputes.
Later we may switch to localized maps but I believe that is a big effort
as the text layer should be presented separately from the map.
Even later we should be able to define regions where more than one
version of the map exists, any editing user making a selection on
what version he will be editing on.
So Mohammed will edit the Palestina version of Jerusalem, and
Moshe may edit a Jewesh version of Jerusalem, including different
names, borders (later) and (even later) landuse.
It would make OSM an even better map, able to represent the views
of all people of this world.
And it would help creating routeplanners for israel
for example where some areas are nogo for israeli, but not
for tourists or palestinines (and the other way around of course).
And we Europeans do not have to learn Hebrew before being
able to use the Israel map.
Gert Gremmen
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