On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Pieren <pier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
>> Not as far as I know.
>
> Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to
> Google. Some contributors did it in the past.
>
>> I don't think that a personal message to one individual mapper from someone,
>> even if in a high position at Google, should be read as Google allowing
>> every mapper to use their imagery.
>
> Most of third party sources agreements came from a high position from
> that particular source. If we should wait an official 50 pages
> contract document signed by 25 lawyers, approved and published by
> OSMF, then we should stop using Bing aerial imagery immediately.
>
>> Furthermore, the terms of service contain other restrictions besides the one
>> about bulk feeds, e.g. an attribution requirement.
>
> You probably noticed that the ToS is almost not about street view but
> mainly about GMaps and GEarth. Attribution and permission is required
> if you copy the photos or map data which is not what is discussed
> here.

The terms of service are for using the google maps API. In order to
view street view images, you must use the google maps API. It doesn't
leave a lot of room for interpretation.

https://developers.google.com/maps/terms

10.1.1. General Restrictions. (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except
through the Service. You must not access or use the Maps API(s) or any
Content through any technology or means other than those provided in
the Service

So you the only way to access street view is through the API.

10.1.3 Restrictions against Data Export or Copying. (a) No
Unauthorized Copying, Modification, Creation of Derivative Works, or
Display of the Content. You must not copy, translate, modify, or
create a derivative work (including creating or contributing to a
database) of [...]

Note the "or contributing to a database" in there. That pretty much
exactly describes OSM.

And regardless of the technical legality which may be somewhat of a
gray area, Google has an infinite number of lawyers compared to OSMF
and would likely prevail in any action they felt worth bringing
against us. This is why we want to avoid even the possibility of
doubt.

Toby

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