On 6 November 2012 00:29, Toby Murray <toby.mur...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Pieren <pier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, Nov 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote: >>> Not as far as I know. >> >> Sad that OSMF is not taking five minutes to post the question to >> Google. Some contributors did it in the past. >> >>> I don't think that a personal message to one individual mapper from someone, >>> even if in a high position at Google, should be read as Google allowing >>> every mapper to use their imagery. >> >> Most of third party sources agreements came from a high position from >> that particular source. If we should wait an official 50 pages >> contract document signed by 25 lawyers, approved and published by >> OSMF, then we should stop using Bing aerial imagery immediately. >> >>> Furthermore, the terms of service contain other restrictions besides the one >>> about bulk feeds, e.g. an attribution requirement. >> >> You probably noticed that the ToS is almost not about street view but >> mainly about GMaps and GEarth. Attribution and permission is required >> if you copy the photos or map data which is not what is discussed >> here. > > The terms of service are for using the google maps API. In order to > view street view images, you must use the google maps API. It doesn't > leave a lot of room for interpretation. > > https://developers.google.com/maps/terms > > 10.1.1. General Restrictions. (a) No Access to Maps API(s) except > through the Service. You must not access or use the Maps API(s) or any > Content through any technology or means other than those provided in > the Service > > So you the only way to access street view is through the API. > > 10.1.3 Restrictions against Data Export or Copying. (a) No > Unauthorized Copying, Modification, Creation of Derivative Works, or > Display of the Content. You must not copy, translate, modify, or > create a derivative work (including creating or contributing to a > database) of [...] > > Note the "or contributing to a database" in there. That pretty much > exactly describes OSM. > > And regardless of the technical legality which may be somewhat of a > gray area, Google has an infinite number of lawyers compared to OSMF > and would likely prevail in any action they felt worth bringing > against us.
The same is true for Microsoft and Yahoo!, in the end it boils down to something someone at those companies said in an email to someone else. Cheers _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk