Hi,
On 21.07.2013 21:28, Kai Krueger wrote:
It begs the question, if this high level design decisions shouldn't live on
the design@ list instead of rails-dev or in the git-hub bug tracker.
Yes, I can imagine that to some a "you only have to follow rails-dev" is
a very hitchhikers-guidesque response.
My impression is this:
1. Lots of people re-iterate the mantra that mailing lists (and "talk"
in particular) are places where you'll only get flak for all your good
ideas, and endless "bikeshedding", and whatnot. I think that this is not
supported by facts.
2. Therefore if you do something you're tempted to ignore the mailing
lists, as everyone tells you they're the pits of hell.
3. Therefore, people on the mailing lists - even the majority that is
not troublemakers - feel sidelined, and complain.
Often even *informing* people in advance could help a lot.
I think that the situation would already be much improved if, when
something of greater importance pops up on rails-dev or elsewhere,
someone informs the "talk" list about that. For example, in the specific
case, once TomH had set up the working branch with the new UI, a quick
note should have gone up on talk: "look here this new design, being
discussed here in case you want to say something". A couple of people
might want to say something but the majority will just be pleased to
have been told about it.
Anyone can do this cross-pollination of the talk list, and maybe we
should make it a habit.
I'll start with:
Hi everyone, there's an idea to provide a new welcome/"landing" page
used to send new users to, or maybe those who come to OSM via one of the
sites using OSM maps. It can be viewed here
http://welcome.apis.dev.openstreetmap.org/welcome
and the discussion is here
https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/338
Bye
Frederik
PS: If I reply to a message on rails-dev, will it land in the proper
github ticket discussion? I tried it once a while ago and found that my
comments were not there, and it seemed that some people were reading via
rails-dev and got my message while others were reading via github and
didn't. Has someone successfully used the write portion of the gateway?
--
Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33"
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