I have been fixing nodes that have wikipedia but no wikidata tags [1], and even the first two randomly picked nodes had identical problem - article was renamed (twice!) without leaving redirects - node 1136510320
Try it yourself - run the query and see what the it points to. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Link_Improvement_Project#Missing_Wikidata_tags Imre, I think at this point it might be better to have both, just as a safety check. But I can already see that they get misaligned - articles keep getting renamed, so we will be stuck mindlessly updating wikipedia tag. Feels a bit like a busywork for the sake of work, but might be needed for a bit. On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 6:00 PM, Imre Samu <pella.s...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I hope everyone realizes that there are Wikidata items for which there > > is no Wikipedia article. > > So you cannot always find it via Wikipedia tags. > > And at least JOSM shows a human readable name of a Wikidata item > > besides the Q-number. I think iD does this as well. > > m. (who manually adds Wikidata references for Flemish churches after > creating the Wikidata items). > > imho: > probably you have a local and domain knowledge on the topic of "Flemish > churches" > but for me: wikidata without wikipedia page - is extremely suspicious > > because: > > #1. Sometimes the " nearby" search for geolocated articles/wikidataids is > not enough > for example: > * at least ~28000 churches exist in the wikidata without coordinates: > http://tinyurl.com/y8nyk9zw > > And probably we will also find wikidata cities without coordinates. > > #2. And we should aware of the current "Parallel geo worlds" problem in > the wikidata[1] > for example: > Arad ( major City in Romania ) has 3 wikidata, and we should prefer id > with wikipedia pages. > * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q173591 ( with wikipedia pages, linked to > OSM ) > * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q31886684 ( created by Cebuano import > [1] ~1 month ago) * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q16898082 > > [1] wikidata cebuano import problem: > * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/ > 2017/08#Dealing_with_our_second_planet * https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/ > Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2017/08#Nonsense_imported_from_Geonames > > > Imre > > > > > > > 2017-09-27 5:03 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.ge...@gmail.com>: > >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 1:17 AM, Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > That's simply rubbish. Tags on an OSM object describe it in the real >> world. >> > They should be verifiable. Whether an OSM object has a wikidata tag on >> it >> > is essentially irrelevant as far as OSM is concerned - it's just a >> primary >> > key into an external database. External data consumers might find the >> data >> > in that database useful, but they can also get to it via wikipedia tags >> > (which, being human-readable, are more likely to be maintained), so it's >> > really not a big deal. >> >> >> I hope everyone realizes that there are Wikidata items for which there >> is no Wikipedia article. So you cannot always find it via Wikipedia >> tags. >> >> And at least JOSM shows a human readable name of a Wikidata item >> besides the Q-number. I think iD does this as well. >> >> m. (who manually adds Wikidata references for Flemish churches after >> creating the Wikidata items). >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk > >
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