Ilya, as a relative public transport outsider I have read your proposal and it claimed to "merely document existing practice" and "clarify" some things. I thought: That's great but why does it need a vote then? Now I read from Roland, who I know is heavily involved in railway mapping, that your proposal "conflicts with well-established mapping rules".
I think that it is very important that, if you ever want to put this to a vote, people know whether they are voting for a change of things, or just for a "clarification" of existing vagueness. I'd really appreciate a compilation of exactly what I would be voting for if I voted to accept the proposal. If people are told that they are just voting for a "clarification" of existing rules and later find out that they actually voted to change what Roland calls "well-established mapping rules", that would render the whole voting process moot. It shouldn't be too difficult to compile a factual list of where exactly (if anywhere) your proposal actually aims to *change* something rather than just *clarify*, and crucially it should be possible for those in the know, including you and Roland, to agree that this list is correct. Should your proposal be voted on and accepted, it would also be good to modify any existing wiki pages accordingly, and ideally the proposal could already contain the changes to be made: "Page XYZ will be amended with this, page ABC will be clarified as follows, and paragraph so-and-so on page ZXY will be removed". Roland, the things you have pointed out in your message sound like relatively minor issues that could be fixed in the proposal, rather than leading to outright rejection. Ilya has said that his aim is not to add more contradictions and confusions - so if you help him to refine the proposal so it doesn't do that, everyone should win? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
