On 30-Oct-17 01:16 AM, Tobias Knerr wrote:
On 27.10.2017 00:49, Dave F wrote:
The woods/forest problem is one of the worst tagging cock-ups in OSM.
Indeed. The current mess is especially disappointing because it hasn't
always been that way: The status quo is the result of an attempt to
"improve" the tagging years ago.
From my point of view, it's plainly obvious that there should be only
one main tag instead of two.
Details on whether the area is used for forestry, whether it is in a
"natural" state (whatever that means), or other such information can be
gathered in addition to that main tag. Gathering that secondary
information should not be a requirement for being able to map the
forest/wood in the first place.
all areas of trees should
be primarily tagged as natural=wood. As with other entities, any further
details which gives clarity should be provided in sub-tags.
That would work nicely as far as I'm concerned.
And then when the trees are harvested in a forestry operation the tag
natural=wood could be removed with the result that the land use would be lost..
until such time as the tress grow again then the natural=wood could be
reintroduced, but then the land use would have to be rediscovered and then
retagged.
At the moment landuse is a separate main tag and is not subservient to another
tag. That should remain.
I see that some might see a necessity of tagging tree areas with both
landuse=forest and natural=wood.
However the one does not imply the other, to the extend that I only tag the
landuse=forest and leave off the natural=wood.
Then there may be others who see natural=wood and think that their area of
trees are not natural by their definition so falsely use landuse=foresty under
the impression that any tree are that is 'managed' is suitable for
landuse=forest.
Solutions?
For the landuse=forest problem?
A) ?
Change the definition of landuse=forest to exclude the word 'managed',
emphasise the use for the production of goods for human use
e.g. the base material for the production of paper, guitars, floor
boards,furniture, house frames etc
Some will object to the change of meaning of such a 'frequently used tag', no
mater how confusing it may be.
B) ?
Alternative - depreciate landuse=forest and introduce a clearly defined
landuse=forestry that only includes tree areas that produce base material for
human use.
C) ? others
For the natural=wood problem?
A) ?
Depreciate natural=wood and introduce landcover=trees.
B) ?
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