On Friday 09 August 2019, Jóhannes Birgir Jensson wrote: > I think we move in different mapper communities as "mapping for the > reward of being recognized by external data users" has never even > been on my list, or of those mappers I know, of reasons for why we > map.
Please don't twist my words - i have not said mappers are "mapping for the reward of being recognized by external data users". I said "While elsewhere people generating geodata are almost always rewarded for their work also in other form (like salery) in OSM the only recognition mappers receive from external data users is the attribution required by the license". That is a huge difference. The growth of the mapper community and in particular the increase in the number of mappers who are externally motivated to map (like paid mappers or mappers in organized humanitarian mapping projects) can certainly lead to the impression that those mappers whose commitment depends on the social contract between mappers and data users being honored by the data users are not strictly needed any more for the project to survive. I would not be too sure about that though. Research on social networks in general typically shows that the function and attractiveness of a network to participants often depends on a relatively small number of participants. And in particular power mappers who might have over many years mapped a significant fraction of their home town and environment are quite likely to become demotivated when they see that data users increasingly just rip off their work and can't be bothered to even acknowledge their contribution in a very basic and collective fashion. With mapper retention over longer time being an issue in general this is a significant problem. Note that this idea of the function of attribution in OSM is not my invention, this is a matter that has been discussed plenty of times over the years with the basic point i am trying to make here being agreed on by many different people. Obviously there are also many mappers who don't care about attribution and who would be fine or would even prefer if OSM data was PD. But that is not my point here. Because also those mappers are to a large fraction fully aware that this view is not universal. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
