I don't know.  I've expressed my opinion(s) on the matter, and believe the LWG 
should chime in with "an" (the?) answer.

SteveA
California

> On Nov 14, 2019, at 3:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> sent from a phone
> 
>> On 15. Nov 2019, at 00:19, stevea <stevea...@softworkers.com> wrote:
>> 
>> But the "ultimate test" of "can the new work be made without OSM data?" 
>> remains a good one, in my opinion, because then, the author can be told, 
>> "well, then, go do so, please, otherwise offer us attribution of some sort" 
>> (whether legally required, or not).
> 
> 
> if you distribute a dataset and say: all roads but not those in 
> OpenStreetMap, isn’t this already attribution? The question is whether you’d 
> want to force them to distribute under ODbL rather than MIT (and maybe what 
> the downstream users have to attribute).
> 
> Cheers Martin


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