On Friday 17 April 2020, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > What about removing this, so that the required credit becomes "© > OpenStreetMap" (it could also be © OpenStreetMapFoundation, but maybe > "© OpenStreetMap" would be sufficient, given that OpenStreetMap is a > brand owned by the OpenStreetMapFoundation)?
I think you are pointing already to the main issue with the whole idea here. The main argument brought forward by the advocates of the shortened attribution is "that OSM is its contributors" so both attributions would be functionally the same. However the reality is that the OSMF and the OSM contributors are not the same, their relationship is fairly well defined in the contributor terms. The idea of attribution in the OSM context was always towards the contributors, not to the OSMF which is only meant to serve as custodian and not as the holder of any moral rights w.r.t. the data itself. Shortening the attribution to "© OpenStreetMap" could make it ambiguous and that could serve as a beachhead to a piecemeal reinterpretation of the roles of OSM contributors and OSMF towards building up the OSMF to a holder of moral rights on its own independent of the OSM community. Independent of what the OSMF suggests in the future - i would probably continue attributing "OpenStreetMap contributors" where feasible to clarify that i am crediting the contributors and not the OSMF. -- Christoph Hormann http://www.imagico.de/ _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk