Dear Mean, On 16:14 04.12.2002, you [Mean Drake ([EMAIL PROTECTED])] wrote...
> What about [EMAIL PROTECTED] Basically, since your mail client tries to imitate a bounce but does not supply a NULL <> sender to the mail server, it does change nothing but generates a whole bunch more of load onto MTAs. Please see <http://www.rfc-ignorant.org/policy-dsn.php>, you'd need exactly this, sending your bounces with null sender and formatted like a real bounce message from your MTA. > Also since I run my own SMTP server, none of my bounced mails are ever going > to reach my ISPs postmaster or MAILER-DAEMON email account. In that case > this should not bother tham should it. Since you run your own mail server, please configure it. Received: from [202.138.118.107] (helo=manage.24online) by stromgrade.its-toasted.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #9) id 18JbEm-0006Jj-00 Your HELO name is not permitted. You should supply your valid hostname. You should bash your Internet provider for not supplying you a reverse IP mapping ;) Nitpicking? More and more servers are configured more strictly. Example? I can set that the server always does a callback to your mail server to see wheter I can send you a bounce, if your address doesn't work, the mail isn't even accepted in first place. I really do not want to sound harsh, but I get more and more angry about waht people try to invent in order to get rid of spam. I made the experience that the best way is, for little spam, to just press <DEL>, and for more spam, to install and use SpamAssasin or the like. Specifically, I've made real good experiences with SA. > I couldn't agree more with you here. But where I stay, I am sorry to say the > spammers are not professional at all and bouncing messages works very well > for me. Its recently that I have become lazier and do not use mailwasher > that spam has started getting back to me. So what works for me is something > that I was looking ways to implement which started my query of whether it > was possible to do it using TB. I'd like to broaden the topic a bit. See this easy game: you receive an UCE, which wasted bandwith. The spammer in the majority of cases brought *millions* of harvested adresses for a few bucks, he just ships his UCE off and does not care about the bounces, because he will get many no matter what, as he brought millions of addresses that aren't fresh. WHY would you want to waste more bandwith again?? Oh, and for your fun, here's a little excerpt from the mail queue on this mailing list server. This is all mail submitted by spammers. Note the part with "frozen". These are the doubleblounces Peter and I have been telling about. Frozen means you cannot route the mail to the sender and the recipient is forged. This frozen stuff locks your MTA, takes your I/O and is just scam. Here, it's okay, it's a rather small server just operating the list and a few personal staff. Think about scaling? 4d 1.9K 18IEbI-00012t-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4d 17K 18IEbI-00012v-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 48h 1.8K 18Iszk-0007S5-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 48h 2.2K 18Iszk-0007S7-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 46h 3.7K 18Iual-0007sn-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 16K 18IxQ3-0000SV-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 16K 18IxQ3-0000SX-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 1.9K 18Ixfm-0000X2-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 16K 18Ixfn-0000X4-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 1.9K 18Ixfq-0000XA-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 16K 18Ixfq-0000XC-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 1.9K 18Ixga-0000XK-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 43h 16K 18Ixga-0000XN-00 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 42h 3.3K 18Iyv7-0000rz-00 <> *** frozen *** 15-3030-thebat.dutaint.com?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 42h 3.3K 18Iz0S-0000t5-00 <> *** frozen *** 15-3030-thebat.dutaint.com?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 42h 3.2K 18Iz0T-0000t8-00 <> *** frozen *** 15-3030-thebat.dutaint.com?[EMAIL PROTECTED] 40h 2.0K 18J0gT-0001Xd-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 35h 5.7K 18J5DP-0002oe-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 31h 4.1K 18J93v-0003nB-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 26h 3.7K 18JDYR-0004oj-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23h 7.8K 18JG9X-0005ax-00 <> *** frozen *** [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cheers, Johannes mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- A large number of installed systems work by fiat. That is, they work by being declared to work. -- Anatol Holt ________________________________________________ Current version is 1.61 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
