Hello Douglas! On Wednesday, December 06, 2006, 11:06 AM, you wrote:
>>> I am using TB! Pro v. 3.51.10 on WinXP with no service packs and >>> when I double click on the file thebat_pro_3-85-03.msi the >>> computer enters a loop that requires me to reboot. >> Something may be corrupt with the MSI installation procedure. Early >> MSI releases of TB had some problems if I remember correct. I remember them. Actually had encounters with them, while beta testing. > You mean TB!3? Yes. I only started beta testing post-v. 3.xx. >> You could try to make a full backup from within TB, uninstall the >> program completely, and then reinstall from the new MSI (and then >> restore the backup) to cure the problem once and for all. > Unless the problem is with my windows installation. The principle > question is, do I or don't I need to upgrade from v 3.51.10? You do not need to upgrade. The additional features past v. 3.51.10 are chiefly the new (and rather daunting) customizer, for customizing toolbars and keyboard shortcuts. Plus a much easier sorting office/filters interface. That's it, in the main. I wish that I were running v. 3.51.10 myself right now, as a matter of fact. But MSI won't allow me to drop back. I'd have to do a full uninstall plus reinstall to do that. And it's too much hassle. What I'm missing, since I began running the beta series v. 3.86.03 and following, is the icon panel in the View window. Attachments are available only in the status bar at the bottom of the screen, now. IIRC, happened to me with v. 3.86.08. Dropping back to v. 3.86.02 did not fix it, however. And when I tried a v. 3.85 MSI install, Windows told me it could not do that. My current work-around is to store the attachments separately. That way I can move images out to a non-TB! folder and view them at a decent size rather than as the unsatisfactory small images TB! now embeds in the message body when I click on the status bar tab. Grr. >> Manually extracting the files from the MSI archive will most likely >> not fix it. You'll still have a corrupt entry in the MS installer >> database that needs fixing. > Everything MS makes corrupts too easily. I can't run MSIE (or > Netcaptor, for that matter) either; but who cares? I use Firefox > and Opera w/ not problems. I like Opera and Firefox. Opera is my default browser. >> Another thing worth trying first would be the MSI cleanup utility >> from Microsoft. It can check the database of MSI installations and >> remove entries without actually uninstalling the program. >> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290301 > I'll give it a try. But I was at the M$ website a while ago and > in order to download a service pack I have to use their own pet > browser. Is anyone using TB! with Linux? Let me know if it's any good, please. I might be interested in it. In re Linux: Tony Boom ran TB! on Linux for awhile before he got his Mac. You might inquire about that on TBOT, since AFAIK Tony's not subscribed to the TB! lists any more. -- Best regards, Mary The Bat! 3.86.02 on Windows XP 5.1 2600 Service Pack 2 ________________________________________________ Current version is 3.85.03 | 'Using TBUDL' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html