David,
Thanks for the reply it helps and also sort of bolsters what I had in
my head. I also want to thank those on the list that responded off the
list. Everyone's responses were helpful. I was at the site today and
found that the area in question are pushing the length limit and we are
going to make them home runs to the network center. There are a number
of issues but today I found that the room they were going to designate
as the TC was further than a home run to the Network center. As for cost
the wiring will be done in house. There is ample room in the Network
center.

Thanks again for all of the help.

John J. Boris, Sr.
JEN-A-SyS Administrator
Archdiocese of Philadelphia
"Remember! That light at the end of the tunnel
Just might be the headlight of an oncoming train!"

>>> <da...@lang.hm> 9/30/2010 10:17 PM >>>
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, John  BORIS wrote:

> Somehow someone here figures I am a network layout guru and I got
tagged
> to guide one of our schools in restructuring their Network. I am
looking
> for some type of guide or spec that would say when it is best to use
a
> Home run to Network Center or to set up a Terminal Closet and have
just
> one (with a spare) run back to the Network Center.
>
> The current situation has the Server Room (Network Center) in the
> middle of the school (well it is about 50 feet off of center). On
one
> side of the building they have a Terminal Closet and one home run
from
> the TC to the Server Room as it is about 150 ft from Network Center.
The
> other side of the building are Home runs to the Network center. That
is
> the side that is in question. Runs to a Terminal closet may be the
same
> distance as the network Center.
>
> I have to add 8 drops to this side and have been having this mental
> battle.  Add a TC, no add the home runs. Back and forth. So is there
> such a Rosetta stone that says when you reach the x ft limit put a
> terminal closet.  Or should the longest run be one from the TC to
the
> Center and keep your runs from the Peripheral to the switch as short
as
> possible.

there is a max length for a single run, and you are best off staying
well 
below that length (it assumes no connectors and minimal interference
from 
other sources). If you are pushing what you consider reasonable (~200ft

per this thread) then you are better off with the TC approach, you may
be 
able to keep each hop under the distance going TC to the center, and
even 
if you can't, the fixed wiring between the TC and the center is going
to 
be higher quality (and therefor more reliable at long distances) than 
wiring going to equipment that may be moved over the years. If you are

doing a long enough run that you want/need to go fiber, a TC is almost

mandatory.

Beyond that the issues you need to consider

1. cost (in $$ or hours)

   It's frequently easier (and cheaper) to have a few long runs and
then 
a bunch of short runs from TC), remember to factor in the cost of the 
equipment (including power and cooling as needed) for the TC

2. flexibility

   home runs give you the best overall bandwidth, TCs and trunks can
end up 
with bottlenecks. you may know how things are expected to be used now,
but 
in 5 years what will be in those locations?

right now you expect most of these locations to just be printers (which

don't need much bandwidth to keep ahead of the printer speed), in a few

years you may want to put wireless access points there where you will
use 
every bit of bandwidth you have and wish for more. There are already 
commercial APs out there that want to be connected by a pair of trunked

gig-E feeds to keep up with what they can do over the air.

I've done both. I prefer to go with the home run approach where I can,
but 
when I have to run all the wires, sometimes I go the other way.

David Lang
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