Yes, many geek friends w/ technological skills. Will you be the Free Texas Caver committee chair? We can table the Texas Caver conversation now and you can bring it up for debate at the Jan meeting. At the Jan meeting, you will obtain the floor and make a motion to the TSA chair. He will then accept/reject and then the registered members present will vote and the majority wins. Sounds fun and simple, right? You in?
On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote: > I'm somewhat familiar with RRO, read through it years ago. > > Isn't that why you have geek friends? > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:13 PM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I majored in Business. I will forward you a script for the January >> business meeting- Roberts Rule of Order, its simple. Im embarrassed >> that I thought black meant red. I suck w/ computers. >> >> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote: >>> Just thoughts rambling through my head, never sat down and wrote down the >>> ideas. >>> >>> No, went to A&M for a few years for comp sci and switched to an >>> aeronautical school to get my pilot's license. Am back in computers >>> tho, LOL >>> >>> :) >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> Free thinker! Did you go to a liberal arts school? I will lay out a >>>> simple, organized way to bring this issue up at the next meeting. I >>>> have thought it through but will not propose it myself. You probably >>>> have material prepared as well >>>> >>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote: >>>>> I'm not condoning of getting rid of the membership fees, and while I >>>>> think a few may quit paying if they can get the TC for free, I think >>>>> that it will bring in more members in the long run. >>>>> >>>>> The information should be free. >>>>> >>>>> Charles >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> I didnt know you felt this way and thought as a TSA member, you would >>>>>> support having a small income for the organization. I will offer to >>>>>> give Gill my prize of a 2010 membership but in no way think that there >>>>>> should be no membership fees. I am glad he has someone to market for >>>>>> him though(you)-i wont >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Gil, I seem to remember you making that statement within the last >>>>>>> year >>>>>>> or so, about the $100 donation. I also seem to remark about matching >>>>>>> that, and I'll stand by it. I'll donate $100 as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Charles >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gill Edigar <gi...@att.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. >>>>>>>> Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if >>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ediger will renew his lapsed TSA membership and donate $100 to the >>>>>>>> TSA >>>>>>>> within seconds of The TEXAS CAVER being made a free publication to >>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>> caver >>>>>>>> who wants to sign up for a free subscription. Subscribing non-TSA >>>>>>>> members >>>>>>>> should be solicited to join TSA but membership should not be a >>>>>>>> requirement >>>>>>>> for receiving all the good caving information aimed at bettering the >>>>>>>> cause >>>>>>>> of caving in Texas. As a caver and TSA member I, personally, would >>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>> every caver in Texas to be reading TSA promotional material, safety >>>>>>>> information, articles about equipment and techniques, cave science, >>>>>>>> upcoming >>>>>>>> events which they can support by attending, trip and cave reports, >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> participating personally by attending TSA conventions and >>>>>>>> contributing >>>>>>>> articles to The TEXAS CAVER themselves, all of which will also >>>>>>>> benefit >>>>>>>> ME. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> am selfish. I want all of these non-TSA members to read The TEXAS >>>>>>>> CAVER >>>>>>>> because I will benefit from them being more informed and better >>>>>>>> cavers. >>>>>>>> They >>>>>>>> do not have to be TSA members to be better cavers. But they can be >>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>> cavers, and well qualified and participating members of the Texas >>>>>>>> caving >>>>>>>> community, if they simply read and contribute to The TEXAS CAVER. >>>>>>>> And >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> participation is good for me, it is good for you, and it is good for >>>>>>>> Texas >>>>>>>> caving. That is probably the most valuable service the TSA can >>>>>>>> provide >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> cavers and caving in Texas--keeping EVERYONE informed so they can be >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> better participant in Texas caving. >>>>>>>> I coined a phrase in 1969, "As The TEXAS CAVER goes, so goes the >>>>>>>> TSA." >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> think that is still true today. If The TEXAS CAVER is made available >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> all >>>>>>>> Texas cavers digitally and free then we will see a much better >>>>>>>> informed >>>>>>>> group of Texas cavers taking the bait to become members of the TSA >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> helping it reach it's selfish aims and purposes--a major part of >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> promoting Texas caving--for ALL of us, not just the few. The time >>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>> finally come, my fellow Texas cavers, to do something for our >>>>>>>> selfish >>>>>>>> selves. It costs the TSA nothing to give The TEXAS CAVER away >>>>>>>> digitally. >>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>> costs the TSA and Texas caving a lot not to. If you want to do >>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>> selfish for yourself and for all the other Texas cavers vote at your >>>>>>>> earliest opportunity to separate The CAVER from TSA membership, to >>>>>>>> make >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> free to any digital subscriber. Otherwise, we're just preaching to >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> choir. >>>>>>>> Yours in Texas caving (for nearly 43 years now), >>>>>>>> --Ediger >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. Brooks >>>>>>>> <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will go digital if >>>>>>>>> Ediger >>>>>>>>> renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make that commitment? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 12/14/09 1:14 PM, "mark.al...@l-3com.com" >>>>>>>>> <mark.al...@l-3com.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Welcome back, Karen! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, if we could only get Ediger to rejoin! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com >>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
