Good night
On Dec 15, 2009, at 12:38 AM, "ellie :)" <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
Ttyl. Sleep time
On 12/15/09, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
Im sure we can come to an easy agreement at the meeting. The sentence
I sent you to forward is very broad and we can add details to the
actuall motion as the meeting day approaches. Just dont add or
subtract from what I recommended for you to post. You could add...
"Silence is consent." That would be a nice touch
On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
have you had this discussion with anyone else?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:20 AM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes. Ive been sick for 4 days- ive been thinking a lot. Wish I had
been in bed the whole time, no luck though
On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
Really think we should put that over Cavetex?
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:14 AM, ellie :)
<ellie.tho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
So, copy and paste this following message and forward it to
whatever
related posts:
I motion to table this discussion and refer it to the Free
Texas Caver
committee to be discussed at the January 10th TSA meeting where
registered members present can vote for a majority.
Include meeting location details if desired.
On 12/15/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
Sure, do you think we should bring up the 2 tier membership to
go
hand
in hand with this?
I dont' know what the costs should be, but people who want a
hard
cover should have to pay for that privilege :)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:57 PM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>
wrote:
Yes, many geek friends w/ technological skills.
Will you be the Free Texas Caver committee chair? We can
table the
Texas Caver conversation now and you can bring it up for
debate at
the
Jan meeting. At the Jan meeting, you will obtain the floor
and make
a
motion to the TSA chair. He will then accept/reject and then
the
registered members present will vote and the majority wins.
Sounds
fun
and simple, right? You in?
On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
I'm somewhat familiar with RRO, read through it years ago.
Isn't that why you have geek friends?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:13 PM, ellie :) <ellie.tho...@gmail.com
>
wrote:
I majored in Business. I will forward you a script for the
January
business meeting- Roberts Rule of Order, its simple. Im
embarrassed
that I thought black meant red. I suck w/ computers.
On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
Just thoughts rambling through my head, never sat down and
wrote
down
the
ideas.
No, went to A&M for a few years for comp sci and switched
to an
aeronautical school to get my pilot's license. Am back in
computers
tho, LOL
:)
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 10:10 PM, ellie :)
<ellie.tho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Free thinker! Did you go to a liberal arts school? I will
lay
out
a
simple, organized way to bring this issue up at the next
meeting.
I
have thought it through but will not propose it myself. You
probably
have material prepared as well
On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org>
wrote:
I'm not condoning of getting rid of the membership fees,
and
while
I
think a few may quit paying if they can get the TC for
free, I
think
that it will bring in more members in the long run.
The information should be free.
Charles
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:07 PM, ellie :)
<ellie.tho...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I didnt know you felt this way and thought as a TSA
member,
you
would
support having a small income for the organization. I
will
offer
to
give Gill my prize of a 2010 membership but in no way
think
that
there
should be no membership fees. I am glad he has someone to
market
for
him though(you)-i wont
On 12/14/09, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org>
wrote:
Gil, I seem to remember you making that statement
within the
last
year
or so, about the $100 donation. I also seem to remark
about
matching
that, and I'll stand by it. I'll donate $100 as well.
Charles
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Gill Edigar <gi...@att.net
>
wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P.
Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will
go
digital
if
Ediger
renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make
that
commitment?
Ediger will renew his lapsed TSA membership and
donate $100
to
the
TSA
within seconds of The TEXAS CAVER being made a free
publication
to
any
caver
who wants to sign up for a free subscription.
Subscribing
non-TSA
members
should be solicited to join TSA but membership should
not be
a
requirement
for receiving all the good caving information aimed at
bettering
the
cause
of caving in Texas. As a caver and TSA member I,
personally,
would
want
every caver in Texas to be reading TSA promotional
material,
safety
information, articles about equipment and techniques,
cave
science,
upcoming
events which they can support by attending, trip and
cave
reports,
and
participating personally by attending TSA conventions
and
contributing
articles to The TEXAS CAVER themselves, all of which
will
also
benefit
ME.
I
am selfish. I want all of these non-TSA members to
read The
TEXAS
CAVER
because I will benefit from them being more informed
and
better
cavers.
They
do not have to be TSA members to be better cavers.
But they
can
be
better
cavers, and well qualified and participating members
of the
Texas
caving
community, if they simply read and contribute to The
TEXAS
CAVER.
And
their
participation is good for me, it is good for you, and
it is
good
for
Texas
caving. That is probably the most valuable service
the TSA
can
provide
to
cavers and caving in Texas--keeping EVERYONE informed
so
they
can
be
a
better participant in Texas caving.
I coined a phrase in 1969, "As The TEXAS CAVER goes,
so goes
the
TSA."
I
think that is still true today. If The TEXAS CAVER is
made
available
to
all
Texas cavers digitally and free then we will see a much
better
informed
group of Texas cavers taking the bait to become
members of
the
TSA
and
helping it reach it's selfish aims and purposes--a
major
part
of
which
is
promoting Texas caving--for ALL of us, not just the
few. The
time
has
finally come, my fellow Texas cavers, to do something
for
our
selfish
selves. It costs the TSA nothing to give The TEXAS
CAVER
away
digitally.
It
costs the TSA and Texas caving a lot not to. If you
want to
do
something
selfish for yourself and for all the other Texas
cavers vote
at
your
earliest opportunity to separate The CAVER from TSA
membership,
to
make
it
free to any digital subscriber. Otherwise, we're just
preaching
to
the
choir.
Yours in Texas caving (for nearly 43 years now),
--Ediger
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 6:35 PM, John P. Brooks
<jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
I want to save the TSA from financial ruin....I will
go
digital
if
Ediger
renews his membership. Anyone else willing to make
that
commitment?
On 12/14/09 1:14 PM, "mark.al...@l-3com.com"
<mark.al...@l-3com.com>
wrote:
Welcome back, Karen!
Now, if we could only get Ediger to rejoin!
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