Having helped host far too many of these things my advice for Ellie was
that she needed to do whatever worked best for her. If it meets her budget,
her travel constraints, her whims etc than it is the right place. No matter
what, someone will be unhappy.
By and far the biggest issue for spring convention has been finding an
affordable site that meets all our needs. Colorado Bend typically would
love for us to have functions there but the ceiling in the conference room
is a bit low for presentations and close camping is problematic. CWAN is in
a good location but has no potable water, dry weather only camping and we
would have to work around the tours in the cave. Most of us loath the
thought of going back to Kerrville after the bout of Irritable Caver
Syndrome that hit us this summer. Sonora was fun but it is way the hell out
in, well, Sonora! Cascade Caverns was pretty good but it required a ton of
prep work and you might get shot. Albert cost us a small fortune. Burnett
was fun but the divided camping and talks upset folks. I could go on and on.
We will have convention where ever Ellie finally finds a spot that works!
If you don't like it run for TSA VP.
Joe
On Dec 2, 2009 3:26pm, Diana Tomchick <diana.tomch...@utsouthwestern.edu>
wrote:
Stefan,
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose...sometimes the people in West
Texas have to drive a long ways, sometimes the people in Houston have a
long drive.
Those of us in North Texas *always* have a long drive.
If you're really a dedicated caver and enjoy going to the TSA Convention,
you find a way to get there.
Diana
On Dec 2, 2009, at 2:05 PM, Stefan Creaser wrote:
The biggest problem David is that it's over near Houston (I
think that's what you said). That's a *long* way from the
center of Texas, why would the people from West Texas want
to drive all the way to East Texas?
Also, you have to consider the cooks (I would say that...) we
don't really want to cook under a tarp, some form of kitchen
would be a lot nicer for the food we usually provide).
Cheers,
Stefan
-----Original Message-----
From: David [mailto:dlocklea...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 1:53 PM
To: Cavers Texas
Subject: [Texascavers] 2010 TSA Spring Convention related
Yesterday, I posted a note about a potential
site to hold the 2010 TSA Spring Convention.
I would like to make a motion that this camp be on
the list of tentative sites proposed for a spring convention.
I sent an e-mail to the manager the camp
to see if his e-mail was still good and if he was still in charge.
He immediately replied, and said he would mention
it to the committee that controls this camp.
I bet this place would be inexpensive compared to
other choices that were mentioned.
This place does not have any karst or any of the
scenery of the Texas Hill Country. However, it
is out in the sticks.
Camp Happy Hollow ( CHH ) is more primitive and smaller, than the
John Knox Ranch Camp that the event has been
held at before.
I think there would be no shortage of places to rig a hammock.
I am guessing Camp Happy Hollow would cost at least $ 600
for the 3 day weekend.
The camp committee may say they are not interested. If that
happens, then maybe TSA could offer $ 800 or more, as
I imagine they are too cash-strapped for renovation.
Portable facilities could be erected if necessary, like the big tarp
with the Oztotl logo.
I am NOT trying to side step the procedures. I am only trying to
see what interest is out there for holding the event at CHH. If
the motion fails, I am not going to lose any sleep or get
my feelings hurt.
David Locklear
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