The newest Alien ID cards that I've seen have some sort of plastic strip that has the numbers visibly embedded within them and could have some sort of hologram business that would hold a large amount of personal information. --Ediger
Side note: Technically it's SSAN (Social Security Account Number) but has been popularly shortened to SSN or, more anally, just "social". --GE On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:59 AM, <tbsam...@verizon.net> wrote: > The SSN has been around since the 1930s and is not supposed to be used > for ID. > > T. > > > Sep 1, 2009 03:47:23 PM, katy...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Well, Brazil is the only country who fingerprints US citizens in response > to US requirement to fingerprint everybody (just for you to know). I > actually wished that all other countries will do the same... Just not fair. > > Europe will not take your fingerprints when you come in (not so far but > just for a symmetry I hope that they will do that soon - only from > Americans, EU persons cross their borders inside the EU numerous countries > without even bothering to take their passports with them, and clearly > without being fingerprinted ). > > I do not see how pedophilia is being prevented by fingerprinting the > teachers. Most cases include kids who just disappear, so I am not sure where > to look for the fingerprints. > > And frankly, I do not want to give my fingerprints to my bank. There are > many online-banks only, so I guess at some point I will opt to those ones. > No fingerprinting. > > Fingerprinting for the drivers license totally shocked us, too. Where are > those proud Americans who once were proud of not having any personal ID? Now > it is SSN, drivers license, what not - and all is fingerprinted! Frankly, > this two-years visit to USA totally opened my eyes. I had really different > view on this country before I came... > > And yeah, I saw the "Life of Others"- the fact that they collect tons of > useless info is ridiculous, but the point is that all this useless info can > be always turned against you. Then you loose your job, your friends and you > kill yourself. Don't forget - I spent my childhood in USSR, and oftentimes I > see amazing similarities between USA and USSR. Very sad, isn't it? The only > thing is that everybody has a big nice shiny gun... Forgetting that the real > weapon is information. > > Anyways, people, I think that we are giving way too much info to our > governments (not only here in US, although here it is really frightening). > > I will start looking for a nice big cave to hide away from being scanned. > Hopefully with a huge underground/under-oceanic tunnel to run away to Europe > without being fingerprinted. > > Katy > > > > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > From: John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net> > > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big Brother > > To: "'Cavers Texas'" <texascavers@texascavers.com> > > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 8:48 PM > > Scan away...I have nothing to > > hide.....Its all around us...and is probably pointless to > > worry about. > > Yes...The new passports are scannable...and many > > countries that require VISAs are making those scannable as > > well....On a recent trip to Brazil....My VISA and > > passport was scanned in Brazil and was surprised that > > they just implemented that technology....and my passport was > > scanned coming back into the US.... > > And I was scanned on a trip to Europe before > > that....so it is not just the US heading this > > way...... > > And my drivers liscense was scanned when I was > > recently stopped for speeding. The county officer had a > > handheld wireless scanner...and a printer on his belt...just > > like they use in the Apple store....there was one guy > > stopping speeders such as me...and one guy in the police car > > checking people out on the computer. > > And my bank has been using the thumbprint > > authorization for a few years..... > > I suspect this is just part of the world now...and > > although I am concerned about privacy...it is hard to take > > that very seriously...since I do use facebook...and > > subscribe to several e-lists such as this..... > > There are bigger problems in the world than > > this. > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 9/1/09, Linda Palit > > <lkpa...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > > > > From: Linda Palit <lkpa...@sbcglobal.net> > > Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Big Brother > > To: "'Mixon Bill'" > > <bmixon...@austin.rr.com>, "'Cavers > > Texas'" <texascavers@texascavers.com> > > Date: Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 12:18 PM > > > > > > Microwave disables the strip? > > Or was it the freezer? > > Passports have them too, at least the new ones do. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mixon Bill [mailto:bmixon...@austin.rr.com] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2009 12:07 PM > > To: Cavers Texas > > Subject: [Texascavers] Big Brother > > > > Nobody has mentioned that we've had to give a > > thumbprint to get a > > Texas driver's licence for at least ten years now. What > > the hell does > > a thumbprint have to do with a driver's license, you > > may well ask. > > Well, my understanding it that it was a federal mandate > > having > > something to do with tracking down deadbeat dads who > > haven't been > > paying child support. The magnetic strip on my current > > driver's > > license probably won't work, > > because I've made a point of trying to > > erase it, without any way to tell for sure that I have. Not > > that it > > can be read remotely, but if anybody ever wants to scan it, > > I probably > > won't be in a very cooperative mood. Nobody ever > > scanned the last one > > I had. > > > > Of course, with the new driver's licenses we're > > supposed to be getting > > soon, there will be a lot more irrelevant stuff on them. > > Probably > > there will be some easy trick to disable the RFI chip in > > the new > > licenses--something more subtle than drilling a hole > > through it. > > > > Of course, the more paranoid among us will never, ever use > > a tollway > > pass....-- Mixon > > ---------------------------------------- > > A fearless man cannot be brave. > > ---------------------------------------- > > You may "reply" to the address this message > > came from, but for long-term use, save: > > Personal: bmi...@alumni.uchicago.edu > > AMCS: edi...@amcs-pubs.org > > or sa...@amcs-pubs.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Visit our website: http://texascavers.com > To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com > For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit > our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: > texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: > texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
