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Charles

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Fofo<gonza...@msu.edu> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Hmm... Wow, I guess there could be a flood of answers. OK, here are my
> comments:
>
>
>> 1. In a long tunnel -  c. 6’ wide x c. 8’ high; about a quarter of a
>> mile in length - can a sensitive person detect changes in air pressure,
>> humidity, and smells, the deeper in and down you travel in this tunnel?
>
> The pressure gradient in the atmosphere is not big enough to feel it when
> merely walking through a passage and getting deeper into a cave. Changes in
> humidity and smell, yes, you can feel those (but they are not necessarily
> related to changes in depth).
>
>
>
>> 2.  Can you feel air moving in such a long tunnel that leads to an air
>> shaft?
>
> Yes -- if there's air movement. That is, a tunnel leading to a pit open to
> the surface doesn't necessarily have airflow through it.
>
>
>> 3.  If you hover over an air shaft on the surface, can you feel/detect
>> air movement going in or out?
>
> Yes (again, if there is air movement).
>
>
>> 4.  If you are in a cave, tunnel, or cavern for up to three days, do you
>> lose track of time?
>>      Could a person go to sleep for several hours and wake up, thinking
>> it must be morning?
>
> Yes, because you lack any indication of whether or not it is day or night.
> Without watches and in a cave, people tend to still adopt a roughly 24-hr
> cycle, of about 12 hrs or activity/12 hrs of rest, but the "day" _could_
> start at, say, 3 am, and since you don't have anything to tell you that, you
> go happily about your business.
>
>
>
>> 5.   What significant developments can a person experience in long term
>> caving?
>
> Hmm... Great friends and cool stories? :)
> I'm not sure I understand the question. Is it like, what could be the
> effects of extremely long stays in caves? Or more like what happens when
> someone caves often and has been doing it for a long time?
> Under the total darkness and (sometimes) silence of a cave, some people's
> brain may start providing their own stimulus via visual or auditory
> hallucinations, but I guess there is some adaptation to it, because cavers
> routinely spend weeks underground while exploring hard caves without any
> problems (but in those cases there are plenty of stimuli around, like other
> cavers).
>
>     - Fofo
>
>
> Mark Alman wrote, on 22/6/09 14:51:
>>
>>  Hey, Robert.
>>   I'm no expert, but, I will post your message to CaveTex, where folks
>> much more intelligent, experienced, and educated than I can, hopefully,
>> help.
>>   OK, y'all, time to dazzle Robert with your collective brilliance!
>>   Thanks and good luck on your story!
>>   Mark
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Robert Graham <r...@localaccess.com>
>> *To:* chair...@cavetexas.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 1:39:32 PM
>> *Subject:* cave/cavern questions
>>
>> Hello.
>>  I'm co-writing a sci-fi adventure story, and would like to ask for help
>> on several questions (that I can think of now, anyway) concerning tunnels
>> and caverns.
>>  My characters are now in one of a series of caverns and will be traveling
>> through them for up to 25 miles. The caverns are both natural and man-made,
>> deliberately designed and connected for underground transportation. Two of
>> the group of four have calcium carbide lamps fixed to their helmets.
>>  1. In a long tunnel -  c. 6’ wide x c. 8’ high; about a quarter of a mile
>> in length - can a sensitive person detect changes in air pressure, humidity,
>> and smells, the deeper in and down you travel in this tunnel?
>>  2.  Can you feel air moving in such a long tunnel that leads to an air
>> shaft?
>>  3.  If you hover over an air shaft on the surface, can you feel/detect
>> air movement going in or out?
>>  4.  If you are in a cave, tunnel, or cavern for up to three days, do you
>> lose track of time?
>>     Could a person go to sleep for several hours and wake up, thinking it
>> must be morning?
>>  5.   What significant developments can a person experience in long term
>> caving?
>>  If you are not in a position to respond, can you direct me to someone who
>> can?
>>  Thanks for any help.
>>  Robert Graham
>> Warshington state, USA
>> or
>>  46º 28' 28" North
>> 122º 56' 44" West
>> http://seventhorder.c-corp.net/
>>
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