You're quite welcome, we have a great group here in Texas in the caving community. My advice is to have them review your story for technical feedback for the caving when you get to that point.
Good luck Charles On Thu, Jun 25, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Robert Graham<r...@localaccess.com> wrote: > > Your group was very generous with their helpful replies. Very much > appreciated! > > Robert > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Goldsmith" > <wo...@justfamily.org> > To: "Fofo" <gonza...@msu.edu> > Cc: "Robert Graham" <r...@localaccess.com>; <texascavers@texascavers.com> > Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Re: cave/cavern questions for book > > > There are a lot of qualified people that could answer these questions, > feel free to subscribe to our mailing list Robert and post your > questions and you'll get a lot of comments. Best technical > consultants you'll find :) > > Charles > > On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Fofo<gonza...@msu.edu> wrote: >> >> Hi! >> >> Hmm... Wow, I guess there could be a flood of answers. OK, here are my >> comments: >> >> >>> 1. In a long tunnel - c. 6’ wide x c. 8’ high; about a quarter of a >>> mile in length - can a sensitive person detect changes in air pressure, >>> humidity, and smells, the deeper in and down you travel in this tunnel? >> >> The pressure gradient in the atmosphere is not big enough to feel it when >> merely walking through a passage and getting deeper into a cave. Changes >> in >> humidity and smell, yes, you can feel those (but they are not necessarily >> related to changes in depth). >> >> >> >>> 2. Can you feel air moving in such a long tunnel that leads to an air >>> shaft? >> >> Yes -- if there's air movement. That is, a tunnel leading to a pit open to >> the surface doesn't necessarily have airflow through it. >> >> >>> 3. If you hover over an air shaft on the surface, can you feel/detect >>> air movement going in or out? >> >> Yes (again, if there is air movement). >> >> >>> 4. If you are in a cave, tunnel, or cavern for up to three days, do you >>> lose track of time? >>> Could a person go to sleep for several hours and wake up, thinking >>> it must be morning? >> >> Yes, because you lack any indication of whether or not it is day or night. >> Without watches and in a cave, people tend to still adopt a roughly 24-hr >> cycle, of about 12 hrs or activity/12 hrs of rest, but the "day" _could_ >> start at, say, 3 am, and since you don't have anything to tell you that, >> you >> go happily about your business. >> >> >> >>> 5. What significant developments can a person experience in long term >>> caving? >> >> Hmm... Great friends and cool stories? :) >> I'm not sure I understand the question. Is it like, what could be the >> effects of extremely long stays in caves? Or more like what happens when >> someone caves often and has been doing it for a long time? >> Under the total darkness and (sometimes) silence of a cave, some people's >> brain may start providing their own stimulus via visual or auditory >> hallucinations, but I guess there is some adaptation to it, because cavers >> routinely spend weeks underground while exploring hard caves without any >> problems (but in those cases there are plenty of stimuli around, like >> other >> cavers). >> >> - Fofo >> >> >> Mark Alman wrote, on 22/6/09 14:51: >>> >>> Hey, Robert. >>> I'm no expert, but, I will post your message to CaveTex, where folks >>> much more intelligent, experienced, and educated than I can, hopefully, >>> help. >>> OK, y'all, time to dazzle Robert with your collective brilliance! >>> Thanks and good luck on your story! >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> *From:* Robert Graham <r...@localaccess.com> >>> *To:* chair...@cavetexas.org >>> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2009 1:39:32 PM >>> *Subject:* cave/cavern questions >>> >>> Hello. >>> I'm co-writing a sci-fi adventure story, and would like to ask for help >>> on several questions (that I can think of now, anyway) concerning tunnels >>> and caverns. >>> My characters are now in one of a series of caverns and will be traveling >>> through them for up to 25 miles. The caverns are both natural and >>> man-made, >>> deliberately designed and connected for underground transportation. Two >>> of >>> the group of four have calcium carbide lamps fixed to their helmets. >>> 1. In a long tunnel - c. 6’ wide x c. 8’ high; about a quarter of a mile >>> in length - can a sensitive person detect changes in air pressure, >>> humidity, >>> and smells, the deeper in and down you travel in this tunnel? >>> 2. Can you feel air moving in such a long tunnel that leads to an air >>> shaft? >>> 3. If you hover over an air shaft on the surface, can you feel/detect >>> air movement going in or out? >>> 4. If you are in a cave, tunnel, or cavern for up to three days, do you >>> lose track of time? >>> Could a person go to sleep for several hours and wake up, thinking it >>> must be morning? >>> 5. What significant developments can a person experience in long term >>> caving? >>> If you are not in a position to respond, can you direct me to someone who >>> can? >>> Thanks for any help. >>> Robert Graham >>> Warshington state, USA >>> or >>> 46º 28' 28" North >>> 122º 56' 44" West >>> http://seventhorder.c-corp.net/ >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Visit our website: http://texascavers.com >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com >> For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com >> >> > >
