I think the bob saver can be expanded to use a browser plugin. This can address some of the security concerns with having a freely available saver listening on the network. And it’s also simply installable as you say. I must have heard enough complaints about corporate networks that I thought those environments have all the trouble, but maybe I was wrong. I guess putting a simple working solution in place first and then improving it would get us a long way.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2019 at 08:16 TiddlyTweeter <tiddlytwee...@assays.tv> wrote: > Ciao Stefan > > *Great post. To the point.* > > Fully agree that the POINT in all this should be to enable users to do TW > with the same level of simplicity they have for other apps. > Basically, nowadays standard, it comes down to one approach for mobiles > and one approach for desktops. > > IMO we have, actually, MINOR, issues between now and full cross-platform > unity of approach. *So close. Yet so far off.* > > One thing, largely OVERLOOKED in this thread, with its (necessary) focus > on mechanisms, is that end-users are primarily interested in CONTENT. > They don't care HOW they get it, just so long it's simple enough. I wish > "Desire for Content Delivery" would matter more here as it is a vital piece > of understanding the issue ... > > I really believe that normal end user working practice is central to this > discussion. The issue is, I think, just this ... > > - ... a person who wants to get something done, using conventional, > recognisable, common, methods. > > My 2 cents. > > Best wishes > TT > > > *(Footnote: Unfortunately TiddlyDesktop is not properly portable yet [it > currently uses absolute addressing to wikis] so its not yet ideal.)* > Stefan Pfister wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> # The Goal and big question: >> >> * a simple way for naive and casual users to save their tiddlywiki (again >> and again)* >> >> >> I read this thread with much interest. In my opinium there is still one >> big aspect, which should be mainly considered. As a casual and >> non-technical user of tiddlywiki and as a teacher, who wants to show the >> students at school something with tiddlywiki I want to say: >> >> The easiest way to use a tiddlywiki is to double-click on a file with a >> tiddlywiki in it. I doesn't matter which ending this file has. If it is >> "html", "tw" or something different. If the user can simply click on it and >> it opens in a way which makes it possible to use it without struggling with >> the saving mechanism. >> >> This works with the so called hta-hack under Windows really well. Simply >> changing the ending of the tw-file to "hta" and you have a simple working >> one-file-tiddlywiki with saving mechanism. This is really usable. For me as >> the user the inner mechanism is not my point of interest. I can simply us >> this in class but only with windows devices. Something more universal and >> platform independent would be great. >> >> A single TW-file with a working saving mechanism in it which opens per >> doubleclick in a browser or even in a separate portable program like >> TW-desktop (something which organises the saving) would be a great progress >> in usability for the non technical and casual user of tiddlywiki. This is >> the normal behavior of programs and files. The most simple users know this. >> This is an easy workflow. I use this kind of workflow every day. I simply >> don't want to install or configure something special in order to be able to >> save my work. But it is in most cases not much of a problem to install a >> app or a program in order to use it. I know there are restricted >> environments but for the normal user: The normal way to use a programm is >> to install something a *.exe or under linux a *.deb and simply use it. >> >> Just my two cents. >> >> Regards, >> >> Stefan >> >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dabe0b3f-9095-45d0-86c5-65fd29a1441c%40googlegroups.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/dabe0b3f-9095-45d0-86c5-65fd29a1441c%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/CAJ1vdSQ%2BrrdMOjvWq01JPAHbn5Vpfz-2iScWq8kKjUerwkSWmA%40mail.gmail.com.
