@David
I used https://szenio.de/Grid/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJJ%2Fsidecontrols, to
have the tiddler controls vertical i the right side. Changed the stylesheet
a bit, to make them fit in size for the small frame - and only visible when
hovering. It works rather well, Hide the title and I can still use the
tiddler controls. But of course they will be placed in the the same size
and at the very top, no matter the other changes - title size and bigger
frame.
But I do not need to be annoyed by 2click2edit. To use that I think, we
must persuade Diego to share with us how it is done.
Birthe
tirsdag den 2. marts 2021 kl. 04.28.30 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford:
> Hi Mat, this snippet hides the controls in edittemplate, thus not allowing
> me to save, close or delete tiddlers. I had to use the filter tab of
> advanced search to delete it.
>
> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:24:23 PM UTC-6 Mat wrote:
>
>> > My wish would be that default TWs would have the viewtoolbar invisible
>> and then visible on hover anywhere in the tiddler frame, and totally
>> disconnected from the title. But I am pretty sure that having separate
>> buttons to toggle titles and the viewtoolbar would require changing a bunch
>> of shadow tiddlers
>>
>> Just quickly; While the title and the toolbar are connected, their
>> visibility can be individually controlled with css. You can toggle this css
>> by e.g toggling the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet. Here's an example (not very
>> elegant but it works for your wish):
>>
>> .tc-tiddler-controls {visibility:hidden;}
>> .tc-tiddler-view-frame:hover .tc-tiddler-controls {visibility:visible;}
>>
>> <:-)
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:31:22 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks all for the encouragement.
>>>
>>> @Mat -
>>> 1. Thin gaps and Hide gaps are two separate on/off toggles. They control
>>> two separate stylesheets. One adjusts between TW default gap and a thinner
>>> gap, and the other between the TW default gap and no gap. But the problem
>>> is that when one is on, the other is unavailable. At some point I may
>>> research how to do a button that cycles through several options.
>>> But as they stand, they conform to the idea that all of my buttons are
>>> on and off toggles. "Subtitle: on/off." "Thin frames: on/off" . "Small
>>> titles: on/off." Or: "What do you want to be visible in your TW?" Title,
>>> subtitle, thin frames, backlinks as transclusion, etc. That explains my
>>> labeling convention. CleanTids did have "Gaps btwn tids" but as you can see
>>> I deliberately changed it to match this labeling convention. Question of
>>> taste.
>>>
>>> 2. Yeah, tiddler titles...I didn't quite understand what you were
>>> suggesting, but here is what my thought process was: the viewtoolbar is in
>>> a sense bundled with the titles into a titlebar, and I have never liked
>>> that decision, because it makes styling titles more complicated. And now
>>> obviously it also decreases the value of hiding the titlebar. My wish would
>>> be that default TWs would have the viewtoolbar invisible and then visible
>>> on hover anywhere in the tiddler frame, and totally disconnected from the
>>> title. But I am pretty sure that having separate buttons to toggle titles
>>> and the viewtoolbar would require changing a bunch of shadow tiddlers, and
>>> might conflict with users' configurations, and would require updating the
>>> plugin with every update to TiddlyWiki. That is not something I wanted to
>>> do. I opted for the simpler solution of just letting people toggle the
>>> titlebar on and off. I figure no one is going to want to hide titles all
>>> the time, they are just going to do so for certain temporary uses.
>>>
>>> 3. I had a similar thought. I thought about a toggle for the seamless
>>> theme (rather than a white palette), but I decided instead to keep it clean
>>> and let the user decide the palette/theme with no nudging from me.
>>> Introducing a specific palette or theme makes this seem more like an
>>> edition and less like a plugin for helping others decide what they want.
>>>
>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 5:40:30 AM UTC-6 Mat wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice David! Some ideas/opinions:
>>>>
>>>> The buttons in the sidebar are (seemingly!) a mix of toggles and single
>>>> value buttons. But they are really all toggles, which is not clear. For
>>>> example, it IS clear that "Title" is a toggle because it is a single
>>>> button. But "Gaps btw tiddlers: Thin * Hide" appear to be two single
>>>> setting buttons but they are both the same toggle with different labels.
>>>> Because the results in the tiddler river is immediately visible, you might
>>>> consider decluttring such buttons to only be a single toggling button with
>>>> the description as its label. For that particular example this would mean
>>>> a
>>>> button with the label "Gaps btw tiddlers" (or perhaps "Tiddler gap" or
>>>> just
>>>> "Gap" perhaps next to static text saying: "between tiddlers") and the
>>>> button toggles between the values.
>>>>
>>>> In the same vein, instead of the label "Thin frames" it would make more
>>>> sense with "Frame thickness". Etc for a few other such toggles. I.e using
>>>> the name of the characteristics rather than the "value" of the
>>>> characteristics.
>>>>
>>>> Tiddler titles are often informative as headings, but not always. There
>>>> could be a small toggle next to each title to set a tag or a field. Some
>>>> stylesheet states that any tiddler with such a tag hides the title row.
>>>>
>>>> Even when titles should be seen, the tiddler toolbar buttons should
>>>> probably not be visible unless hovered.
>>>>
>>>> A palette or theme of particular interest might be one where the page
>>>> background is white or perhaps just the river background is white, i.e so
>>>> the tiddlers seem to join. Maybe this special case warrants a direct
>>>> toggle
>>>> button?
>>>>
>>>> <:-)
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:13:10 PM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> *"I love you and want to have your babies".*
>>>>>
>>>>> My *real *message? Really that it is GOOD you go towards plugins for
>>>>> your contributions to TW.
>>>>>
>>>>> They work well, are wanted & used!
>>>>>
>>>>> Basically it is a Fixxgig moment <https://youtu.be/M1FCqDJMWgY> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> TT
>>>>>
>>>>> David Gifford wrote
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, you read that right, I finally got off my bum and learned Tinka
>>>>>> and created my very first plugin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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