@David I used https://szenio.de/Grid/#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2FJJ%2Fsidecontrols, to have the tiddler controls vertical i the right side. Changed the stylesheet a bit, to make them fit in size for the small frame - and only visible when hovering. It works rather well, Hide the title and I can still use the tiddler controls. But of course they will be placed in the the same size and at the very top, no matter the other changes - title size and bigger frame. But I do not need to be annoyed by 2click2edit. To use that I think, we must persuade Diego to share with us how it is done.
Birthe tirsdag den 2. marts 2021 kl. 04.28.30 UTC+1 skrev David Gifford: > Hi Mat, this snippet hides the controls in edittemplate, thus not allowing > me to save, close or delete tiddlers. I had to use the filter tab of > advanced search to delete it. > > On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 6:24:23 PM UTC-6 Mat wrote: > >> > My wish would be that default TWs would have the viewtoolbar invisible >> and then visible on hover anywhere in the tiddler frame, and totally >> disconnected from the title. But I am pretty sure that having separate >> buttons to toggle titles and the viewtoolbar would require changing a bunch >> of shadow tiddlers >> >> Just quickly; While the title and the toolbar are connected, their >> visibility can be individually controlled with css. You can toggle this css >> by e.g toggling the tag $:/tags/Stylesheet. Here's an example (not very >> elegant but it works for your wish): >> >> .tc-tiddler-controls {visibility:hidden;} >> .tc-tiddler-view-frame:hover .tc-tiddler-controls {visibility:visible;} >> >> <:-) >> >> >> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 3:31:22 PM UTC+1 David Gifford wrote: >> >>> Thanks all for the encouragement. >>> >>> @Mat - >>> 1. Thin gaps and Hide gaps are two separate on/off toggles. They control >>> two separate stylesheets. One adjusts between TW default gap and a thinner >>> gap, and the other between the TW default gap and no gap. But the problem >>> is that when one is on, the other is unavailable. At some point I may >>> research how to do a button that cycles through several options. >>> But as they stand, they conform to the idea that all of my buttons are >>> on and off toggles. "Subtitle: on/off." "Thin frames: on/off" . "Small >>> titles: on/off." Or: "What do you want to be visible in your TW?" Title, >>> subtitle, thin frames, backlinks as transclusion, etc. That explains my >>> labeling convention. CleanTids did have "Gaps btwn tids" but as you can see >>> I deliberately changed it to match this labeling convention. Question of >>> taste. >>> >>> 2. Yeah, tiddler titles...I didn't quite understand what you were >>> suggesting, but here is what my thought process was: the viewtoolbar is in >>> a sense bundled with the titles into a titlebar, and I have never liked >>> that decision, because it makes styling titles more complicated. And now >>> obviously it also decreases the value of hiding the titlebar. My wish would >>> be that default TWs would have the viewtoolbar invisible and then visible >>> on hover anywhere in the tiddler frame, and totally disconnected from the >>> title. But I am pretty sure that having separate buttons to toggle titles >>> and the viewtoolbar would require changing a bunch of shadow tiddlers, and >>> might conflict with users' configurations, and would require updating the >>> plugin with every update to TiddlyWiki. That is not something I wanted to >>> do. I opted for the simpler solution of just letting people toggle the >>> titlebar on and off. I figure no one is going to want to hide titles all >>> the time, they are just going to do so for certain temporary uses. >>> >>> 3. I had a similar thought. I thought about a toggle for the seamless >>> theme (rather than a white palette), but I decided instead to keep it clean >>> and let the user decide the palette/theme with no nudging from me. >>> Introducing a specific palette or theme makes this seem more like an >>> edition and less like a plugin for helping others decide what they want. >>> >>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 5:40:30 AM UTC-6 Mat wrote: >>> >>>> Nice David! Some ideas/opinions: >>>> >>>> The buttons in the sidebar are (seemingly!) a mix of toggles and single >>>> value buttons. But they are really all toggles, which is not clear. For >>>> example, it IS clear that "Title" is a toggle because it is a single >>>> button. But "Gaps btw tiddlers: Thin * Hide" appear to be two single >>>> setting buttons but they are both the same toggle with different labels. >>>> Because the results in the tiddler river is immediately visible, you might >>>> consider decluttring such buttons to only be a single toggling button with >>>> the description as its label. For that particular example this would mean >>>> a >>>> button with the label "Gaps btw tiddlers" (or perhaps "Tiddler gap" or >>>> just >>>> "Gap" perhaps next to static text saying: "between tiddlers") and the >>>> button toggles between the values. >>>> >>>> In the same vein, instead of the label "Thin frames" it would make more >>>> sense with "Frame thickness". Etc for a few other such toggles. I.e using >>>> the name of the characteristics rather than the "value" of the >>>> characteristics. >>>> >>>> Tiddler titles are often informative as headings, but not always. There >>>> could be a small toggle next to each title to set a tag or a field. Some >>>> stylesheet states that any tiddler with such a tag hides the title row. >>>> >>>> Even when titles should be seen, the tiddler toolbar buttons should >>>> probably not be visible unless hovered. >>>> >>>> A palette or theme of particular interest might be one where the page >>>> background is white or perhaps just the river background is white, i.e so >>>> the tiddlers seem to join. Maybe this special case warrants a direct >>>> toggle >>>> button? >>>> >>>> <:-) >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 1, 2021 at 12:13:10 PM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>> >>>>> *"I love you and want to have your babies".* >>>>> >>>>> My *real *message? Really that it is GOOD you go towards plugins for >>>>> your contributions to TW. >>>>> >>>>> They work well, are wanted & used! >>>>> >>>>> Basically it is a Fixxgig moment <https://youtu.be/M1FCqDJMWgY> :-) >>>>> >>>>> TT >>>>> >>>>> David Gifford wrote >>>>> >>>>>> Yes, you read that right, I finally got off my bum and learned Tinka >>>>>> and created my very first plugin. >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/4b45f177-2f36-49a4-95b7-b40460ff3cbfn%40googlegroups.com.