Not to keep banging the Discord drum- there's a bigger conversation here that needs to run its course -but i have to ask, since there's a question in the air about hosting: Re this "TiddlyWiki 5" server that i have in my Discord client (has a blue w/ white "T5" icon in server browser): Where is this server hosted? Is it paid or free? Looks like "saqimtiaz" is one of that server's more active users, so maybe @saq can give some context about this...
For my part: i joined the Discord party to access the Fission server, when i was trying to get my tiddlywiki.fission.app working, and needed support to get that working. Got some great help in real-time from a few of the good people there, low-latency interaction being one of the great advantages Discord has over GG, and sorted the problem out right quick. Am guessing that i acquired access to the T5 server around that time, via pointage from one of the Fission channels, but in fact i don't know the source. PS: Seeing as how Discord login via Google account is an option, as @TT points out w/ screenshot below, that would seem to make migration easy as can be... And maybe there's even a way to mirror discussion threads from here and topic threads over there to update one another (not blow-by-blow; just name of thread / topic). Another practical point to consider, if & when the higher-level conversation comes down to How :-) /walt On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:17:43 AM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: > ...Moving to Discourse isn't going to be a silver bullet. However it would > give us the opportunity to start building towards something better with > tools that help us, rather than continuing to struggle to work around the > limitations of GG; which only seem to be getting worse. > > Regards, > Saq > > On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 10:46:22 AM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote: > >> Ciao ludwa6 >> >> As I commented to Saq, it can't be just about "is Discourse better?" It >> IS. BUT it is not the central issue though. >> There needs to be DEEP THOUGHT about *HOW you could ever transition* >> from here to there without devastating the membership here? >> >> FWIW, one BIG UPSIDE with Discourse is that you can logon with GOOGLE >> credentials. >> Might seem like a small thing, but those small things matter in easing >> the case for any potential transfer ... >> >> Best wishes >> TT >> >> [image: Screenshot 2021-05-30 103742.jpg] >> >> On Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 10:13:39 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: >> >>> I share your pain, @TT... and am +1 @saq's idea about Discourse and how >>> to fund it. >>> >>> I for one would be happy to chip in a few $/month to support this >>> community, and- from earlier discussion thread @Tones initiated (can't seem >>> to find it now; see the problem? :-) -i gather that there be others >>> likewise inclined to fund the community somehow, if only we could find an >>> equitable way to do so. As discussed, who or what initiative gets funded, >>> and how that gets decided is not a trivial problem... >>> >>> So funding for an improved collaboration infrastructure seems not only >>> perfectly equitable, it also solves what must be (if TT & i are at all >>> representative) a problem we all share, and an opportunity for more >>> effective collaboration. >>> >>> /walt >>> >>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 7:50:46 AM UTC+1 saq.i...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I would like to see us move to using Discourse >>>> <https://www.discourse.org/> for discussions. In particular the search >>>> feature is very well implemented. >>>> >>>> Professional hosting ranges $50-100 per month. Personally I think an >>>> Open Collective model for where the community chips in with recurring >>>> monthly contributions to support that would be a good way to approach it. >>>> >>>> On Sunday, May 30, 2021 at 8:34:37 AM UTC+2 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >>>> >>>>> This Google Group is OUR main end-user forum. >>>>> >>>>> There are problems with Google Groups. More recently it was >>>>> "dumbed-down" by Google. A lot of tools just disappeared. That just made >>>>> it >>>>> worse for OUR needs. >>>>> >>>>> And, long term, it has proved to also have NO DECENT MEMORY. >>>>> Search here is the Total Pits. >>>>> >>>>> WHAT happens as a result of that? >>>>> >>>>> A VERY common pattern that happens daily here is RE-CREATION OF THE >>>>> WHEEL. >>>>> GG lacks any easy, structured, way to interrogate the VAST >>>>> knowledge-base that this GG actually IS. >>>>> SO, again and again, you see very similar queries come up and be >>>>> patiently RE-answered. >>>>> >>>>> I think a much BETTER way would be to leverage off the knowledge >>>>> accumulated here and direct users first to already EXTANT solutions. >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure it is possible. >>>>> But repetition of the variants on the same question is a waste, I >>>>> think? >>>>> >>>>> Just comments >>>>> TT >>>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/782ebe53-c1b5-42cb-b49b-ae0bd139d9adn%40googlegroups.com.
