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Hi Wolfgang

Sorry for the short answers...

> I seem to have been mistaken thinking the new templating feature would be a 
> feature of the TW core itself. Now it seems it's actually a TiddlySpace 
> plugin which doesn't do much more than ForEach already could since a long 
> time in stand-alones?

As I understand it is a feature of the tw-core itself -  You should
be
able to do sth like:
<<list filter [tag[someTag] template:someTemplate>>

> I must be doing something wrong, because
when I search for 'plugin' I
> get 16 entries, for the 'systemConfig'
tag 8, and both together it
> shows just 9 plugins?? (in each of my TWs I'll find more...)

I only get 9 tiddlers tagged with systemConfig as well? - Don't know
why...

> You know what I do when I need to search for a plugin? I open
an old> 13MB TW where I imported all plugins until two years ago,
exactly
> because 'TiddlyHub' seemed never to catch up. 1300 systemConfigs and
> almost 300 scripts in total. Though it's outdated I
still always find
> something useful or a hind where to look for.
>
> At the time of it's creation FF wasn't that stable and often crashed
> with this TW. Now that would be very improved..

If you ported your plugins (maybe as packages with two, three or more
related plugins and scripts) to TiddlySpace you can collect all of
them in your own library/space of plugins and scripts -
1 To provide an
overview for visitors
2 Let other spaceusers benefit from your
collection
3 Have a FAST loading TW with direct access to ALL plugins
and scripts you have collected ..

> If I can already have all these features in a standalone, why would I
> dare to go there without the ability to create minimal testcase wikis
> to ask for help, or find a mistake myself as a non-developer?

You can still create minimal testcases - Just create a new subspace
and delete all systembags (or include "classictheme" or make them
private)

> All those dependencies make it that much less hack-able.

I don't agree - I still think of a space as a normal TiddlyWiki. You
get some extra options to interact with other spaces - and  share
your
work in ways that wasn't possible before..
As long as you don't change any of the TiddlySpace-system-plugins
TiddlySpace is just sth. which
happens from the backstage.IF you change some of the TSsystemPlugins/
tiddlers you might get in trouble when there is an upgrade taking
place - otherwise you are left alone with your own TW....

> Ok, I might give it a trial. But first would want to know what the 3
> 'includes': system-plugins, 'system-info' and 'system-images' do.

If you click on the backstage to the left - select "Tiddlers" ->
"Spaces" and click each spacename you'll get a list of tiddlers
included from those spaces...

> Do I need all these 83 'excludeLists' tiddlers, or can I delete them and> 
> still have it fully functioning as with a regular stand-alone TW?

Yes You can, however I usually just include "classictheme" found at
http://themes.tiddlyspace.com (include it by writing "classictheme"
in
the "includes"tab in the backstage to the left).Then I have a
"normal"
looking TW, which behaves like one I would download from
tiddlywiki.com...

Downloading and uploading.

It's very easy to upload an original "one-file"TW from Your hdd to
TiddlySpace. Simply select import from the backstage and choose
whether the uploaded tiddlers should be Private or Public. (If you
change your mind you can always batchconvert them from the backstage
"Batch")...

Since uploading a TW to TiddlySpot has stopped working - this IS the
way to get your local TW to the net. (If you don't use your own server
and a ftp-client of course...)

I download a Space in three different ways:
1) Go to the backstage to the left - click the export tab and click
download.(I don't really
need this because it downloads ALL plugins also the TiddlySpace
specific plugins and tiddlers - and I don't believe the synchronize
back to the server thing seems to work very well - please correct me
if I'm wrong...)

2) Same as 1) however I import all tiddlers except those which are
serverspecific into a "normal" empty TW.(I change
View- and EditTemplates accordingly - so they don't use/try to show
user icons etc... - If I used "classictheme" - that's not a
problem... )

3) I import the tiddlers I want from a Space (TiddlySpace is Cors
enabled) directly into a local TiddlyWiki...

Cheers Måns Mårtensson

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