I'm trying to design TiddlyWiki5 so that it works well with MathJax and other off-the-shelf text processing components. I'm interested in the general idea of supporting domain specific notations. So I'd be happy if TW5 could be used by choreographers (who have their own notational systems), but I recognise that mathematics is absolutely the most important notation to support.
In terms of plugin distribution, I've come to believe that the present scattered nature of TiddlyWiki makes things needlessly hard for users. They have to find tiddlywiki.com, download the product, and then by reading the groups they have to figure out the sites that they need to visit to get the basic plugins that everyone relies on. So, for TW5, I'm interested in developing the idea of "core plugins" written by the community that become part of the standard distribution of tiddlywiki. You're not the first person to say "such and such a plugin is so incredibly useful that it should be in the core". The community tends to interpret it as a suggestion that the plugin or feature becomes part of the core code, because we don't have any other unit of distribution. And then it becomes a consideration of bytes vs. benefits, and the generality of the feature. I think we can avoid all of that by introducing the idea of the tiddlywiki distribution being made up of the core code plus a bunch of plugins evolved by the community. Cheers Jeremy On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Fallon <danielf...@gmail.com> wrote: > I agree with PMario. although the current implementations are > difficult to get working (believe me I've tried), if you look at the > size of the source of empty.html, or heck, even look at the size. > about 350kb. which could be represented as a couple hundred pages of > text. this is exceptional for a web page, which usually is modular and > calls upon other resources when displaying the page. > > so definitely better plugins, better documentation, but dear god, > please don't increase the size of TW and risk making it unstable lol > > On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 4:13 AM, hpon <peter.norli...@gmail.com> wrote: >> PMario, >> >> Thanks for your reply. >> >> In what sense is the core too big? >> >> I think that mathematical notation should be regarded as an elimentary >> feature, since the purpose of TW (in my view) is to present and manage >> information in an effective way. That purpose cannot be generally >> fullfilled without a proper support for math notation. Plus, society >> as we know it would collaps if people don't communicate and reson in >> mathematical terms. >> >> I cannot see why intrensic math support would be a problem for any >> user. Perhaps you could expand a little on why embracing math >> notation functionality would be harmful. >> >> /hpon >> >> On 29 Jan, 20:07, PMario <pmari...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi hpon, >>> >>> I personally think, that the core (empty TiddlyWiki) is allready big >>> enough. Some say, it is too big and stick with a version prior to >>> jQuery. And as you say. There are some possibilities (plugins) out >>> there, that handle the situation quite well. So what ever is included >>> into the core, will be wrong for someone. >>> >>> Imo such functions should be plugins. If it is tricky to get them >>> working, plugins may need more or better documentation. >>> >>> -m >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "TiddlyWiki" group. >> To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "TiddlyWiki" group. > To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
