Well, first if you can reproduce the problem over http, that's already kind of an option. Next, where do you place Ton's TW? In the same folder as your dev TWs? I mean, although that's unlikely, there can be some forgotten cookie-option (may be you renamed something like "enable TWted" and didn't accounted that somewhere in your code, but as your browsers already have those cookies with old names and values, everything works), could it be so?
пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 19:38:08 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh написал: > > Ton & Yakov, > > It seems to me that you are facing the same problem, but I am afraid this > is not an easy one for me (maybe easy for someone else) because Ton's MTC > file works normally with my FF16.02 / Win7x64 (and Opera 12.02 / Win7x64 as > well, see attachment). Well, to be precise it works only if saved locally. > It has the same problem if opened over the internet. > > I have no idea how to debug under such a situation. > Any suggestions? > > Vincent > > On Friday, November 2, 2012 10:22:24 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >> >> Hi Vincent, >> >> I made a MTC as before (Win7 x64, FF16, TW v2.6.6, TWTable v1.4.3, >> TWted v1.4.3), see [1] >> After reloading the backstage button is present, but with a table only >> the 'C' button can be seen. The 'E' button can't be seen so edit is >> not possible. >> >> FYI: The latest "combined" version TableEdit v1.3.12 does also work >> with the plugins mentioned in my last post. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ton >> >> [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html >> >> On Nov 2, 11:03 am, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Ok, I found out what's the problem: it's with CSS -- the C button >> hovers >> > over the E button, so it's practically "invisible", see the screenshot >> of >> > inspection (it stays in the latest versions). >> > >> > Also, TWtable + TWted add unnecessary scroller to every table. This may >> be >> > connected with the following thing (can be seen on the same >> screenshot): >> > the additional thicker border is only at the top, bottom and left, but >> not >> > at the right; though, inspection shows that the wrapper has normal >> width >> > (not wider than the table). >> > >> > Take you time, Vincent! We'll be patient :) >> > >> > пятница, 2 ноября 2012 г., 11:47:06 UTC+4 пользователь Vincent Yeh >> написал: >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Yakov & Ton, >> > >> > > Thank you both very much for the feedback and suggestions. Ton your >> test >> > > file helped me quickly identified the cause to the missing backstage >> > > problem: ignorance of shadowed tiddlers in TWtable. It is now fixed >> in the >> > > next release (see below). It seems to fix the "blocking >> saveChanges()" >> > > issue as well (Ton please help verify this), but I am not sure if >> that also >> > > fixed Yakov's problem that TWtable+TWted combo don't work in Win7 >> x64. >> > > Yakov please try and tell me the results. >> > >> > > Other things will have to wait, as I must devote my time into other >> things >> > > for a while. >> > >> > > TWtable v1.4.3 >> > >> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable.min >> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtable >> > >> > > - Bug fix for missing backstage and blocking of saveChanges(). >> > > - The missing backstage happens for TW files that start with >> the >> > > default GettingStarted tiddler or any other shadowed >> tiddlers, >> > > because TWtable does not touch any shadowed tiddlers. It >> doesn't >> > > even try to find it, which resulted in a null value for a >> > > shadowed tiddler and then an exception thrown when TWtable >> is >> > > retrieving its title (to find its containing DOM element). >> If this happened >> > > when loading the DefaultTiddler then the backstage, which >> comes >> > > up after that, would have got no chance to load up. >> > > - I did not notice this because it did not happen to my own >> > > minimal test file, which does not start with any of the >> shadowed tiddlers. >> > > *But this should have happened since transclusion >> > > synchronization was implemented. Why it did not? Or it did?* >> > > - Some more bug fixes for sorting with SortableGridPlugin and >> > > TableSortingPlugin. >> > > - These bugs were partly introduced in codes to fix >> rows/columns >> > > and the code splitting. *Hope there are not much left*... >> > >> > > - Changed back to normal font size for table caption. >> > >> > > TWted v1.4.3 >> > >> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted.min >> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWted >> > > - Set default text-alignment of a table cell to inherit. >> > > - Removed some dead codes. >> > >> > > TWtcalc v0.7.3 >> > >> > > - (min)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc.min >> > > - (regular)http://twtable.tiddlyspace.com/#TWtcalc >> > > - Defined ROWS() and COLS()/COLUMNS() functions, which counts >> the >> > > number of rows/columns within a range of cells. >> > > - Bugs fixed for COLUMN()/COL() and COLUMNA()/COLA() functions. >> > > - These bugs were introduced in codes supporting absolute >> > > references. >> > > - Bug fixed with ROUND() function. >> > > - It was returning NaN when the argument results in 0. >> > >> > > Have Fun! >> > > Vincent >> > >> > > On Friday, November 2, 2012 2:02:38 AM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >> > >> > >> Hi Vincent, >> > >> > >> I had not much time to test the new versions, but I am using version >> > >> 1.3.10 daily with much pleasure. Editing tables is so easy now; it >> > >> saves me a lot of time. >> > >> > >> First test with the split versions was not a success (Win7 x64, >> FF16): >> > >> I used the Minimal Test Case made for TableEdit v 1.3.9 (TW v2.6.5 >> > >> with config.options.chkAutoSave = true; in a systemConfig tagged >> > >> tiddler), added TWTable v1.4.2-1 and TWted v1.4.2, tagged them >> > >> systemConfig and deleted TableEdit v1.3.9. >> > >> At that moment I realized autosave was not working (I cannot recall >> > >> exactly when it stopped), but manual saving was not possible either. >> > >> With help of the bookmarklet "Save current storeArea contents to >> > >> clipboard" from TiddlyTools I could restore the TW but now the >> > >> backstage button had disappeared. >> > >> Anyway, I could edit my sample table. >> > >> May be its a coincidence, but both problems (autosave/backstage >> > >> button) appeared in earlier versions of TableEdit (before the >> split). >> > >> > >> So I started from scratch and checked if autosave worked after every >> > >> change. >> > >> * empty TW v2.6.6 >> > >> * Added systemConfig tagged tiddler with config.options.chkAutoSave >> = >> > >> true; >> > >> * Added TWtable tagged with systemConfig >> > >> Up till then everything was OK, but after reloading the TW the >> > >> backstage button had disappeared (the same in Chrome 17 portable) >> > >> * Added a tiddler with a table. >> > >> Table could be edited. >> > >> See MTC [1] >> > >> > >> I did not do any further tests. >> > >> > >> For your information, the following plugins work together with >> > >> TableEdit v1.3.10: >> > >> DropDownMenuPlugin 2.1 >> > >> GotoPlugin 1.9.2 >> > >> ImageSizePlugin 1.2.3 >> > >> ImportTiddlersPlugin 4.6.2 >> > >> InlineJavascriptPlugin 1.9.6 >> > >> ListFiltrPlugin 0.9.1 Beta >> > >> NestedSlidersPlugin 2.4.9 >> > >> QuickEditPlugin 2.4.4 >> > >> QuickNotePlugin 2.1.0 >> > >> QuickOpenTagPlugin 3.0.1a >> > >> RenameTagsPlugin 3.0 ($Rev: 5501 $) >> > >> SaveAndReloadMacro 1.0 >> > >> SearchOptionsPlugin 3.0.10 >> > >> SimpleMessagePlugin 0.1 >> > >> TabEditPlugin 0.32 >> > >> TableOfContentsPlugin 2.4.3 >> > >> TagSearchPlugin 1.2.0 (2010-10-10) >> > >> TagsplorerMacro 1.3.3 >> > >> TiddlerTweakerPlugin 2.4.5 >> > >> TiddlersBarPluginMP 1.2.5 >> > >> TiddlyFileImportr 0.2.7 >> > >> ToggleTagPlugin 3.1.0a >> > >> YourSearchPlugin 2.1.6 (2012-04-19) >> > >> > >> Note: there are 2 search plugins installed. I can switch between >> them, >> > >> but mainly use YourSearchPlugin. Both worked together with >> TableEdit. >> > >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> > >> Ton >> > >> > >> [1] >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable142-1_TWted142.html >> > >> > >> On Nov 1, 6:40 pm, Yakov <yakov.litvin.publi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Vincent, >> > >> > >> > > Thanks a lot for the feedback. Currently I do not have time to >> work >> > >> on >> > >> > > these plugins so you will need to wait a while for the next >> upgrade. >> > >> Here >> > >> > > are a few quick replies I can make at this moment. >> > >> > >> > That's ok, for current use TableEditor 1.3.12 seems to be good >> enough. >> > >> > >> > > Both Opera 12.02 and FireFox 16.02 work in my Win7 x64 (running >> in >> > >> > > VirtualBox 4.1.22 r80657 over Ubuntu 12.04) with TWtable+TWted, >> so I >> > >> am >> > >> > > guessing there might be a plugin conflict in your system. Could >> you >> > >> try to >> > >> > > verify this? >> > >> > >> > No, it's definitely not a plugin conflict as for testing I use >> separate >> > >> > "repositories", where only TableEditor (couple of versions) and >> others >> > >> > (TWted, TWted.min etc) are stored, and only one set is active >> (i.e. >> > >> when I >> > >> > test TableEditor, TWted and others have systemConfigDisable, when >> I >> > >> test >> > >> > TWted + TWtable, others get the tag). >> > >> > >> > And I also noticed that TWtcalc.min is not hiding all its codes, >> which >> > >> is >> > >> > >> > > due to the use of percentage symbol (%) in the recently modified >> > >> COUNT() >> > >> > > function. Maybe will switch to another symbol... >> > >> > >> > Well, you can try @@display:none .... @@ wrapper instead of /% >> .... %/, >> > >> I >> > >> > think this will work. >> > >> > >> > > I see. That was my mistake! Guess I should change it to >> > >> TWtable.min... or >> > >> > > just remove it and show a warning message if TWtable (or >> TWtable.min) >> > >> is >> > >> > > not installed (because people can choose to install either >> one)... >> > >> > >> > This depends on the plugin mechnism. The Requires slice is used by >> > >> users to >> > >> > see what is required, but also by TW plugin engine which makes >> sure >> > >> that >> > >> > the required plugins are launched *before* the requiring one (I'm >> not >> > >> sure >> > >> > what is done if the required plugin is not found, but this can be >> > >> > investigated by learning the loadPlugins function [1]). If the two >> > >> plugins >> > >> > can be launched in an arbitrary order and work anyway, than I'd >> suggest >> > >> to >> > >> > replace "Requires" by some synonym, so that it would serve for >> users, >> > >> but >> > >> > doesn't do anything with the plugin launch order. >> > >> > >> > > However, I have stopped TableEditor so further development will >> go to >> > >> > > TWtable+TWted combo. We shall fix the first issue before other >> > >> things. >> > >> > >> > Sure, very true. >> > >> > >> > I didn't know about sliders so tables in there are not properly >> > >> prepared. >> > >> > >> > > This will be added in the near future. >> > >> > >> > Ok (it's just previously they worked well, if I remember >> correctly). >> > >> > >> > Looking forward. >> > >> > >> > [1] >> https://github.com/TiddlyWiki/tiddlywiki/blob/master/js/main.js#L138 >> > >> > >> > >> > the controls button hovers over the edit button.PNG >> > 99KViewDownload >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/mOcNCPQZk_MJ. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki?hl=en.
