Ton, Yakov, I made a change and need to know if it works. Please try the two files again, thanks.
1. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html 2. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html Vincent On Sunday, November 4, 2012 12:21:39 AM UTC+8, Vincent Yeh wrote: > > > Here are my options for FF16.02 / Win7 x64 (attachment), clean (reloaded > after removing all existing cookies) and working... > I did not try to remove and re-install FireFox, though. > > This is really confusing to me... > > Vincent > > On Saturday, November 3, 2012 10:52:07 PM UTC+8, TonG wrote: >> >> Hi Vincent, Yakov, >> >> I tried a different PC with Win7 x86 FF16.02 >> All 3 files [1], [2], and [3] do show only a 'C' button, locally as >> well over http. >> >> A "fresh" portable FF16.02 on my Win7 x64 PC has the same results: >> All 3 files [1], [2], and [3] do show only a 'C' button, locally as >> well over http. >> >> I rechecked my (installed) FF16.02 on my Win7 x64 PC. >> At least consistent with earlier check: >> [1] and [2] show 'C' and 'E' buttons over http; [3] shows only a 'C' >> button. >> As local files they all show only a 'C' button. >> >> Thereafter I deleted all TW related chk and txt cookies. >> Now all 3 files show only a 'C' button, locally as well over http! >> So it looks there is/was a relation with cookies. >> Cookies now used for [1] over http: >> chkAnimate true >> chkAutoSave true >> txtBackupFolder "" >> chkCaseSensitiveSearch false >> chkConfirmDelete true >> chkDisplayInstrumentation false >> txtEditorFocus text >> txtFileSystemCharSet UTF-8 >> chkForceMinorUpdate false >> chkGenerateAnRssFeed false >> chkHttpReadOnly true >> chkIncrementalSearch true >> chkInsertTabs false >> txtMainTab Timeline >> txtMaxEditRows >> txtMoreTab more TabAll >> chkOpenInNewWindow true >> chkRegExpSearch false >> chkSaveBackups true >> chkSaveEmptyTemplate false >> chkSliderOptionsPanel true >> chkTWtableEnabled true >> txtTWtableFixCols 0 >> txtTWtableFixRows 0 >> chkTWtableFixedColWidth false >> txtTWtableMaxHeight 500px >> txtTWtableMaxWidth 100% >> txtTWtableMinCellWidth 8 >> chkTWtableMultiLine false >> chkTWtableTranspose false >> chkTWtedClickAway true >> chkTWtedConfirmToDelete true >> chkTWtedEditAllTables false >> chkTWtedEnabled true >> chkTWtedIncludeCSS true >> chkTWtedManualSave false >> chkTWtedManualUpload false >> txtTheme "" >> chkToggleLinks false >> chkUsePreForStorage true >> txtUserName YourName >> >> I do not have such a complete list before I cleared TW relasted >> cookies, but I do have a list without the states of the cookies (quite >> long): >> chkAnimate >> chkAutoSave >> chkBackstage >> txtBackupFolder >> txtBreadcrumbsCrumbSeparator >> chkBreadcrumbsHideHomeLink >> txtBreadcrumbsHomeSeparator >> chkBreadcrumbsLimit >> txtBreadcrumbsLimit >> chkBreadcrumbsLimitOpenTiddlers >> txtBreadcrumbsLimitOpenTiddlers >> chkBreadcrumbsReverse >> chkBreadcrumbsSave >> chkCaseSensitiveSearch >> chkConfirmDelete >> txtCookieJar >> chkCookieJarAddToAdvancedOptions >> chkCreateDefaultBreadcrumbs >> chkDeleteListDisplayInBackStage >> chkDeleteListDisplayInOptions >> chkDisableAutoSelect >> chkDisableTabsBar >> chkDisplayInstrumentation >> chkDragScroll >> txtEasyEditorButtons >> txtEasyEditorHeight >> txtEditorFocus >> chkEnableUndo >> txtFadingMessagesTimeout >> txtFileSystemCharSet >> chkFloatingSlidersAnimate >> txtFontSizeedit >> txtFontSizeview >> chkForceMinorUpdate >> chkGenerateAnRssFeed >> chkHideSiteMenu >> chkHideTabsBarWhenSingleTab >> chkHttpReadOnly >> chkIncrementalSearch >> txtIncrementalSearchDelay >> txtIncrementalSearchMin >> chkInsertTabs >> txtItemsPerPage >> txtItemsPerPageWithPreview >> txtMainTab >> txtMaxEditRows >> txtMaxSidebarHeight >> chkMonitorCookieJar >> txtMoreTab >> txtNextTabKey >> chkOpenInNewWindow >> txtPlayerDefaultHeight >> txtPlayerDefaultWidth >> chkPortableCookies >> chkPreviewText >> txtPreviousTabKey >> chkRegExpSearch >> chkReorderBreadcrumbs >> chkResizeEditor >> chkSaveBackups >> chkSaveEmptyTemplate >> chkSearchAsYouType >> chkSearchByDate >> chkSearchExcludeTags >> txtSearchExcludeTags >> chkSearchExtendedFields >> chkSearchFields >> chkSearchHighlight >> chkSearchInTags >> chkSearchInText >> chkSearchInTitle >> chkSearchList >> chkSearchListTiddler >> chkSearchOpenTiddlers >> chkSearchResultsOptions >> chkSearchShadows >> chkSearchTags >> chkSearchText >> chkSearchTitles >> chkSearchTitlesFirst >> txtSelectedTiddlerTabButton >> chkShowBreadcrumbs >> chkShowEditBar >> chkShowRightSidebar >> chkShowStartupBreadcrumbs >> chkSliderOptionsPanel >> chkStickyPopups >> txtTCalcDecimalMark >> chkTCalcThousandSeparated >> txtTCalcThousandSeparator >> chkTEditorAllTableEditable >> chkTEditorConfirmToDelete >> chkTEditorManualUpload >> txtTEditorMinEditWidth >> chkTOCIncludeHidden >> txtTOCListSize >> chkTOCShow >> txtTOCSortBy >> chkTWtableEnabled >> txtTWtableFixCols >> txtTWtableFixRows >> chkTWtableFixedColWidth >> txtTWtableMaxHeight >> txtTWtableMaxWidth >> txtTWtableMinCellWidth >> chkTWtableMultiLine >> chkTWtableTranspose >> chkTWtedClickAway >> chkTWtedConfirmToDelete >> chkTWtedEditAllTables >> chkTWtedEnabled >> chkTWtedIncludeCSS >> chkTWtedManualSave >> chkTWtedManualUpload >> chkTextAreaExtensions >> txtTheme >> txtTidIDEMaxEditRows >> txtTiddlerHeight >> txtTiddlerLinkTooltipDate >> txtTiddlerLinkTootip >> chkToggleLinks >> txtToggleRightSideBarLabelHide >> txtToggleRightSideBarLabelShow >> txtTweakerSortBy >> chkUseInclude >> chkUsePreForStorage >> chkUseYourSearch >> txtUserName >> txtUserTiddlerWidth >> >> Cheers, >> >> Ton >> >> [1] >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html >> [2] >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html >> [3] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html >> >> On Nov 3, 2:06 pm, Vincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hm...This is really not easy for me...I'll need some time to think >> about... >> > >> > Your options look fine to me, Yakov, except one >> > that txtTWtableMaxWidth:"100%25". Is that a typo? I tried it in my >> files >> > and found that it gives "0" and results in a wrong width for the extra >> > wrappers created by TWtable. However, I don't think it's the cause of >> all >> > the troubles, it's just one thing strange I had noticed. >> > >> > I am still in confusion...... >> > >> > Vincent >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Saturday, November 3, 2012 7:43:19 PM UTC+8, Yakov wrote: >> > >> > > And as for me, both FF (updated to 16.02) and Opera don't show E >> button in >> > > each file over http. >> > >> > > Let's check this (as we both have FF 16.02 at win7 x64): this is the >> set >> > > of cookies I get for the dropbox files: [1]. What I've got in each >> file is >> > > on the "in FF" screenshot. Funny, if I donwload the two files, >> FireFox >> > > slightly changes the style (see the other screenshot; actually, many >> styles >> > > are changed, not only those of tables, see "overall" screenshots). >> > >> > > Oh, and for Opera, the first file works locally! See the two >> screenshots. >> > >> > > [1] >> > > chkRegExpSearch:"false" >> > > chkCaseSensitiveSearch:"false" >> > > chkIncrementalSearch:"true" >> > > chkAnimate:"true" >> > > chkSaveBackups:"true" >> > > chkAutoSave:"true" >> > > chkGenerateAnRssFeed:"false" >> > > chkSaveEmptyTemplate:"false" >> > > chkOpenInNewWindow:"true" >> > > chkToggleLinks:"false" >> > > chkHttpReadOnly:"true" >> > > chkForceMinorUpdate:"false" >> > > chkConfirmDelete:"true" >> > > chkInsertTabs:"false" >> > > chkUsePreForStorage:"true" >> > > chkDisplayInstrumentation:"false" >> > > txtBackupFolder:"" >> > > txtEditorFocus:"text" >> > > txtMainTab:"Timeline" >> > > txtMoreTab:"moreTabAll" >> > > txtMaxEditRows:"30" >> > > txtFileSystemCharSet:"UTF-8" >> > > txtTheme:"" >> > > txtUserName:"YourName" >> > >> > > chkTWtableEnabled:"true" >> > > txtTWtableMinCellWidth:"8" >> > > txtTWtableMaxWidth:"100%25" >> > > txtTWtableMaxHeight:"500px" >> > > chkTWtableMultiLine:"false" >> > > txtTWtableFixRows:"0" >> > > txtTWtableFixCols:"0" >> > > chkTWtableTranspose:"false" >> > > chkTWtableFixedColWidth:"false" >> > > chkTWtedEnabled:"true" >> > > chkTWtedConfirmToDelete:"true" >> > > chkTWtedClickAway:"true" >> > > chkTWtedManualSave:"false" >> > > chkTWtedManualUpload:"false" >> > > chkTWtedEditAllTables:"false" >> > > chkTWtedIncludeCSS:"true" >> > >> > > суббота, 3 ноября 2012 г., 14:40:23 UTC+4 пользователь TonG написал: >> > >> > >> Hi Vincent, >> > >> > >> Observations, but no explanations: >> > >> > >> Both of your Dropbox test files [1], [2] do show the 'C' and 'E' >> > >> buttons when used over http (FF16). If I look at my file [3] over >> > >> http, I only see the 'C' button. >> > >> The only difference is that in [2] the buttons "touch" each other >> > >> while in [1] there is 1 pixel spacing. >> > >> > >> Trying to get the files locally I observed something strange (it has >> > >> nothing to do with the buttons, but I want to mention it). Normally >> > >> right-clicking the page and selecting 'View Page Source' opens my >> > >> configured editor (Notepad++), but with both your files the standard >> > >> FF window with source text opens. This does NOT happen with my >> > >> original Dropbox file [3] and other Dropbox files in my public >> Dropbox >> > >> folder. >> > >> > >> Anyway, viewing the files locally, does show ONLY the 'C' button >> > >> (FF16). >> > >> > >> If I use (installed) Safari v5.1.7, I only see the 'C' button (local >> > >> and over http; local as if the plugins are disabled: small table >> > >> without thick border lines). >> > >> If I use Google Chrome portable (v22.0.1229.94) and Opera portable >> > >> (12.02), I only see the 'C' button (local and over http). >> > >> > >> Cheers, >> > >> > >> Ton >> > >> > >> [1] >> > >> >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html >> > >> [2] >> > >> >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html >> > >> [3] >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2638511/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143.html >> > >> > >> On Nov 3, 5:50 am, Vincent Yeh <qmo.w...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Yakov, >> > >> > >> > Cookie history is a very good point! But my FF still works >> normally >> > >> after >> > >> > removing cookies, and my Opera does not have a cookie history >> because I >> > >> > only installed it a couple of days ago. >> > >> > >> > The same folder issue is cleared as the same file still works at >> > >> another >> > >> > folder. >> > >> > >> > However, from your screenshot I did suspect something and made two >> > >> files in >> > >> > my Dropbox's public folder for testing, please try and see if one >> of >> > >> them >> > >> > works. >> > >> > >> > 1. >> > >> > >> >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--01.html >> > >> > 2. >> > >> > >> >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/23745840/MTC_TW266_TWTable143_TWted143--02.html >> > >> > >> > Vincent >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/tiddlywiki/-/DEpvve8Tja4J. 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