Hi Neil I listened to the discussion on Tiddlywiki's target audience that you > raised in response to my comments in this thread. I just wanted add some > thoughts to that discussion. >
Great points, Neil, thank you. I think I agree with everything you've said. Best wishes Jeremy. > > I think the most important thing in working out how to focus the effort, > not just for the documentation, but also for the tool itself, is to have a > clear understanding of what TW's > strengths are.. its USP if you like. There are plenty of note taking > tools out there, just as there are many tools for web authoring, data > collection, and the various other things that > TW can do. We should identify what it is that makes a user choose TW over > any of the other tools, and focus on those aspects in development efforts, > since those are the things valued by people who choose TW over anything > else. > > I would strongly argue that one thing that is definitely *not* TW's > strength is user friendliness.. I don't think it ever will be its selling > point, and trying maximise user friendliness is likely to be a misplaced > effort, and could end up diluting TW's strong points. For someone who > needs user friendly note taking, something like Evernote, OneNote, a Word > document or pen and paper are always going to win out. I would suggest > that the features that cause anyone to choose TW are A) the ability to have > ownership of the data and the means to access that data, and B) the ability > to use a powerful, customisable and extensible platform to organise > information in new and interesting / useful ways. Personally, I came to TW > for A, and stick with it for both A and B. > > If we accept these as the key strengths of TW (are there other > suggestions?), then we have to acknowledge that the key audience is those > people who care about those things, and not the people who can find other > tools to do the same job in a more user friendly way. That doesn't mean > that TW shouldn't be made more user friendly, just that it should primarily > be made more friendly to *those* users, and not to everyone. > > Cheers, > > Neil. > > > On Friday, 2 January 2015 14:58:23 UTC, Neil Griffin wrote: >> >> Yes, I think the question of who is the target user is an important one. >> Most of the discussions I have seen on the forum and in the hangouts seem >> to be aiming for promoting TW to an audience with relatively low technical >> capability. I think this is a mistake both in terms of maximising the >> audience and maximising the impact of Tiddlywiki. I would suggest that the >> aim of marketing TW should be to maximise something like the following >> product: >> >> >> *size of audience trying TW (A) * probability of user sticking with TW >> (B) * benefit received or impact achieved by user (C)* >> Targetting a low-tech audience makes A very large, but B and C are likely >> to be very low. I think a better result would be achieved by targetting a >> smaller, but still substantial technically capable audience, for whom B and >> C are much larger. In an ideal world, you would target everyone, but with >> finite resources, it is better to go for the low hanging fruit. If I were >> to try to promote it to people I know, I would start with my colleagues and >> not my Mum. >> >> Neil. >> >> >> On Friday, 2 January 2015 13:52:15 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote: >>> >>> Neil, >>> >>> I agree virtually 100% though I suspect we might have some quibbles >>> about where the boundary is for who the target user is. I think if it had >>> some semblance of a help system other than the full wiki and an editor more >>> like what Eric did for TWC, TiddlyWiki could reach a significantly greater >>> audience. >>> >>> >>> -- Jeremy Ruston mailto:jeremy.rus...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.