Hi Neil

I listened to the discussion on Tiddlywiki's target audience that you
> raised in response to my comments in this thread.  I just wanted add some
> thoughts to that discussion.
>

Great points, Neil, thank you. I think I agree with everything you've said.

Best wishes

Jeremy.


>
> I think the most important thing in working out how to focus the effort,
> not just for the documentation, but also for the tool itself, is to have a
> clear understanding of what TW's
> strengths are.. its USP if you like.  There are plenty of note taking
> tools out there, just as there are many tools for web authoring, data
> collection, and the various other things that
> TW can do.  We should identify what it is that makes a user choose TW over
> any of the other tools, and focus on those aspects in development efforts,
> since those are the things valued by people who choose TW over anything
> else.
>
> I would strongly argue that one thing that is definitely *not* TW's
> strength is user friendliness.. I don't think it ever will be its selling
> point, and trying maximise user friendliness is likely to be a misplaced
> effort, and could end up diluting TW's strong points.  For someone who
> needs user friendly note taking, something like Evernote, OneNote, a Word
> document or pen and paper are always going to win out.  I would suggest
> that the features that cause anyone to choose TW are A) the ability to have
> ownership of the data and the means to access that data, and B) the ability
> to use a powerful, customisable and extensible platform to organise
> information in new and interesting / useful ways.  Personally, I came to TW
> for A, and stick with it for both A and B.
>
> If we accept these as the key strengths of TW (are there other
> suggestions?), then we have to acknowledge that the key audience is those
> people who care about those things, and not the people who can find other
> tools to do the same job in a more user friendly way.  That doesn't mean
> that TW shouldn't be made more user friendly, just that it should primarily
> be made more friendly to *those* users, and not to everyone.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Neil.
>
>
> On Friday, 2 January 2015 14:58:23 UTC, Neil Griffin wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I think the question of who is the target user is an important one.
>> Most of the discussions I have seen on the forum and in the hangouts seem
>> to be aiming for promoting TW to an audience with relatively low technical
>> capability.  I think this is a mistake both in terms of maximising the
>> audience and maximising the impact of Tiddlywiki.  I would suggest that the
>> aim of marketing TW should be to maximise something like the following
>> product:
>>
>>
>> *size of audience trying TW (A) * probability of user sticking with TW
>> (B) * benefit received or impact achieved by user (C)*
>> Targetting a low-tech audience makes A very large, but B and C are likely
>> to be very low.  I think a better result would be achieved by targetting a
>> smaller, but still substantial technically capable audience, for whom B and
>> C are much larger.  In an ideal world, you would target everyone, but with
>> finite resources, it is better to go for the low hanging fruit.  If I were
>> to try to promote it to people I know, I would start with my colleagues and
>> not my Mum.
>>
>> Neil.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 2 January 2015 13:52:15 UTC, Stephen Kimmel wrote:
>>>
>>> Neil,
>>>
>>> I agree virtually 100% though I suspect we might have some quibbles
>>> about where the boundary is for who the target user is. I think if it had
>>> some semblance of a help system other than the full wiki and an editor more
>>> like what Eric did for TWC, TiddlyWiki could reach a significantly greater
>>> audience.
>>>
>>>
>>>


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