Cosa, There are ways to build solutions that encourage community involvement and maintenance, for example if a single repository was marketed by the community as the key way to have your plugin promoted, plugin developers are incentivised to use this to promote their plugin, maintain the info, and the community can respond to lost authors. I suppose my view is a prefix in the current group, vs another group are only imperfect solutions on the way to a more effective solution, I suggest having a vision for our destination and keeping the interim as simple as possible. To me building the new group with the history of plugins from the existing group is as much work as building the end solution.
I am not sure what you mean by a Goolag group, I for one are an open source community driven protagonist. Open discussion is always important. Regards Tony On Sunday, August 27, 2017 at 8:58:51 AM UTC+10, codacoder...@outlook.com wrote: > > > > On Friday, August 25, 2017 at 8:13:21 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: >> >> All, >> >> Why not promote Posts in the current groups whose titles are prefixes >> [announcement] or [Plugin] ? >> >> It is easy to search a group for such strings, >> > > It's easy to search, agreed. But the results from what you're suggesting > are unsuccessful at worst, vague at best. People don't use consistent > phrasing to make announcements (nor would I expect them to). Just to be > sure, I checked: There are instances of "Announcing", "Presenting" and > (most vague) "Plugin" (which could be talk about the plugin, not an > announcement). > > In addition, part of the problem is not knowing how to search for > something that solves <insert complex solution text here> - you don't know > in advance *what* text might hit the plugin on the nose. My idea has > this covered -- ask a question here in the chat group, and one of us > suggests a plugin/bundle/whatever in the plugin group. > > > >> and most of the plugins I know about were found in this group, >> > > me too. But, key point: > > *where are the plugins you DON'T know about?*To be sure to know about all > of them, it requires > > > - either staying in touch with the group (at least weekly, if not more > often) but I don't expect most "average" users would be willing to do > that, > or... > - searching this group, which, as I've intimated, is too hit-and-miss > > > My idea is a separate group. When Joe newbie shows up here and asks "Is > there a way to do X", someone here posts a link to the relevant > announcement thread on the plugin group. *That* is easy. Once there, > they can search for more/other plugins or just read the posts. *That* is > easy, too -- very possibly thinking "wow, this is cool - so organised > too!" At least, that's my hope. > > > so we need to maintain access to the history. If you find a plugin in the >> current groups you may be able to create a new post [plugin] plugin name >> function with a link to a previous post. >> >> If we can build an index (using search) within the group to plugin >> references then we can at least find them, and when we decide on a >> repository, registry or library of plugins we can harvest the details from >> the group to start. >> >> > While that would work, I think that represents more work. Maintenance is > a thankless task most likely to suffer from entropy. The path of least > resistance is best. I'm not sure my idea is the best path, yet -- that > remains to be seen. > > >> I am prepared to build and host such a registry but it must openly allow >> plugin authors and enthusiasts to add and edit it with us all chipping in. >> It also must take account of the existing helpful repositories or plugin >> sets documented by those who have already put some effort into this. This >> means it naturally needs to be a tiddlywiki itself in my view. >> >> > That's admirable. Really. However, as much as I dislike goolag groups, > it is and is likely to remain, "always around". Again, path of least > resistance... > > Thanks for the input, it's very valuable. At the very least, it helps me > consolidate my thinking. > > Coda > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to tiddlywiki@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/tiddlywiki. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/b7d0c230-b18b-42c9-bdbf-7c36425f2c94%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
