Well, at *least* they know the difference between zero and one...Right? ;-) Beth Benoit Granite State College Plymouth State University New Hampshire
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 7:16 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <wuens...@ecu.edu> wrote: > > > > > > > Nope -- my TA would put two numbers up on the board, like .05 > and .032, and ask them, in words, which is lower – or he would put one > number up, like .046, and ask whether it was less than or more than .05.** > ** > > ** ** > > Cheers,**** > > [image: Description: Karl L. > Wuensch]<http://core.ecu.edu/psyc/wuenschk/klw.htm> > **** > > *From:* Beth Benoit [mailto:beth.ben...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2012 6:11 PM > *To:* Teaching in the Psychological Sciences (TIPS) > *Subject:* Re: [tips] Is p < .05 ?**** > > ** ** > > Karl,**** > > Is it possible they're having trouble with the < vs. the >?**** > > ** ** > > I'd be willing to bet that most Americans - no, slash that - most *people* > struggle > with what those two signs represent. I know, it "ain't rocket science," > but I suspect a lot of people never had that explained to them.**** > > ** ** > > *Please* say that's what it really is. ;-) **** > > ** ** > > Beth Benoit**** > > Granite State College**** > > Plymouth State University**** > > New Hampshire**** > > ** ** > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Wuensch, Karl L <wuens...@ecu.edu> wrote: > **** > > I am not the greatest fan of NHST, but do my duty to teach it. For a > good while now I have been disturbed that a substantial proportion of my > undergraduate students never figure out how to decide whether or not a test > is significant. I tried stressing that p is a measure of the goodness of > fit between the data and the null, that p is like the strength of evidence > in support of the accused null defendant in statistical court, and so on. > Nothing seemed to help much. > > Now one of my teaching assistants has discovered why. Given two > numbers, these students are unable to identify which is smaller. No, I am > not kidding. Yes, this involves numbers between 0 and 1. My TA spend half > an hour trying to teach them how to tell which is the smaller of two > numbers, without great success. > > Karl W. > > --- > You are currently subscribed to tips as: beth.ben...@gmail.com. > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aaf72&n=T&l=tips&o=20768 > or send a blank email to > leave-20768-13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aa...@fsulist.frostburg.edu** > ** > > ** ** > > ---**** > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: wuens...@ecu.edu.**** > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b3534420e&n=T&l=tips&o=20770 > **** > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > **** > > or send a blank email to > leave-20770-13060.c78b93d4d09ef6235e9d494b35344...@fsulist.frostburg.edu** > ** > > **** > > **** > > --- > > You are currently subscribed to tips as: beth.ben...@gmail.com. > > To unsubscribe click here: > http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aaf72&n=T&l=tips&o=20771 > > (It may be necessary to cut and paste the above URL if the line is broken) > > or send a blank email to > leave-20771-13105.b9b37cdd198e940b73969ea6ba7aa...@fsulist.frostburg.edu > > > > > --- You are currently subscribed to tips as: arch...@jab.org. To unsubscribe click here: http://fsulist.frostburg.edu/u?id=13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df5d5&n=T&l=tips&o=20775 or send a blank email to leave-20775-13090.68da6e6e5325aa33287ff385b70df...@fsulist.frostburg.edu
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