On Sun, Apr 26, 2026 at 5:23 PM Muhammad Usama Sardar <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Rob,
>
> Thank you for the clarification. Please feel free to clarify if I
> misunderstood something.
> On 26.04.26 03:34, Rob Sayre wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 6:24 PM Muhammad Usama Sardar <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Rob,
>> On 23.04.26 02:07, Rob Sayre wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2026 at 4:34 PM Eric Rescorla <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> As I said in the meeting, I think there are reasonable arguments to be
>>> made about how the FATT ought to engage with the WG, and ceteris
>>> paribus, I think it's better for things to be open.
>>>
>>
>> I agree with Ekr here,
>>
>> Mind clarifying which part you agree with:
>>
>>    1. "there are reasonable arguments to be made about how the FATT
>>    ought to engage with the WG"
>>    2. "it's better for things to be open"
>>
>> 2 is fine and I think we are all in agreement.
>>
>> If 1, could you please clarify whether you are claiming that the
>> arguments I have made in the thread are *not* reasonable? If so, please
>> clarify which of my arguments are lacking? Thank you.
>>
>
> I think #1 and #2 are a little more intertwined than your message suggests.
>
> Sure, I agree. However, I'm still looking to better understand your
> *interpretation* of #1 to which you said you agree?
>

Well, I don't think the FATT needs to allow interjections by TLS WG
members. From:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-usama-tls-fatt-extension-06.html#section-4.1.2

I disagree with one of the design goals: "Keep intra-FATT communication
private as it is."

It is not something I would raise an objection over, and it is definitely
allowed by RFC 2418. But if the intra-FATT communication were public, but
read-only, I think that would solve a lot of the communication issues.

thanks,
Rob
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