Your curiosity is well placed. I am also curious. 

These attacks are weakness in the limbs and torso; and muscle contractions in 
my entire backside from buttocks to head, then becoming contractions from legs 
to head on the front side. These contractions last long enough for my face to 
turn beet red. Then they let go and I wait for the next one.  Breathing is 
hard. And talking makes these contractions start when I try to speak. 

After several hours of this I get well enough to talk again without convulsing. 
I will be very weak for another day or so then I regain most of my strength so 
that I can once again make coffee and walk with a cane short distances. 

That's about it. Right now it is the next day after a very bad day and night. 
So I walk with elbow crutches and have no coordination or stamina. 

Is it from earlier exertion?  I don't know. I lecture in a college and don't 
exercise any more so I can't imagine. 

Thanks for your interest,

Dalton
Dalton Garis
Abu Dhabi
+971-050-668-5760

-----Original Message-----
From: "Gary Thomas" <gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 23:25:14 
To: Dalton Garis<malugss...@gmail.com>; Janice Nichols<jan...@centurytel.net>; 
<jack...@att.blackberry.net>; TMIC<tmic-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Connected?

Dalton,

Maybe I'm missing something, but what exactly are these "attacks" you describe?

I don't understand what your neurologist calls "cycling" as far as worsening of 
TM symptoms.

I have always understood, and have read somewhere, perhaps on this list or the 
TM Journal, that we  have the onset of TM experiences (lesions on the spinal 
cord) which for most of of us is a one-time occurrence with possibly lasting 
symptoms,  AND we have times of exacerbation brought on by physical or mental 
overexertion, maybe an illness such as even a cold and so on (I have worse 
banding from sitting too long or standing too long) which are not caused by 
further damage to the spinal cord but worsening of symptoms at least 
temporarily.

So, again, Dalton, I am confused as to your attacks--could it be another 
lesion, could you be experiencing MS?  I hope not, but just wonder what is 
happening--and forgive me for my curiosity.

Gary in Michigan
 ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dalton Garis 
  To: Janice Nichols ; jack...@att.blackberry.net ; TMIC 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Connected?


  Hi;


  Thanks for your support.


  I got another attack today.  It started slowly with pain in my feet and hands 
yesterday, which became weaker by the hour.  Then it slowly worked itself up 
the legs and arms today, weakening me as it went.  Then it hit my lower and 
upper back, and I could no longer stand up, and am now unable to walk without 
the aid of crutches, and only for a few yards.


  When it got really bad today, I was unable to speak more than a few words 
without causing convulsions in my back and arms.  After a while I could speak 
again.  I had to be careful with the swallowing which was no longer on 
automatic.  Same with urinating.  It took great concentration to sort of 
identify the nerves and wake them up.


  There were moments when I could not feel my legs and didn't know if I could 
move them.  Again, it took concentration to wake the nerves up and get the legs 
moving again.  The pain in the legs and arms and back is terrific and nothing 
touches it.


  My neurologist has told me that there are, of course, stronger medications 
which can mostly arrest this cycling and give me some peace.  But also, of 
course, they would make me a zombie for most of the day and I would likely 
become unable to work any longer.


  I am happy to be able to type again.  It is five minutes before eleven pm and 
I can finally work my hands a little, for typing, making coffee, and getting 
some snacks from the fridge.


  Well, I wrote all this because some have been saying that it is vey quiet.  
So here's a raft of symptoms to look at.  


  Thanks so much, friends, for being here.


  Dalton Garis



  Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
  Office: +971-02-607-5070/5297
  Mobile: +971-50-668-5760-- 



  From: Janice Nichols <jan...@centurytel.net>
  Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 10:31:30 -0600
  To: Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com>, <jack...@att.blackberry.net>, TMIC 
<tmic-list@eskimo.com>
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Connected?



  Dalton, no,  but I do have cycles of feeling okay and then feeling more 
discomfort from nerve pain and spasms.     Can't believe the doc's can't get 
you under control
  better than that.    How about going to one of the best known hospitals - 
especially those fairly familiar with TM?    Or, maybe you have.    All it 
takes is one
  doctor who can understand what is going on with you - hopefully.      I 
realize you are also trying to hold down a job and you have the pressure from 
that to
  always be there, but I just can't believe there isn't some way this can be 
controlled.           I wish you the best.
  Janice

  From: Dalton Garis 
  Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:57 PM
  To: jack...@att.blackberry.net ; TMIC 
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] Connected?

  So;

  I can report that I have about a 5-day period wherein I am mostly free of 
severe difficulties, able to walk with a cane and to work for about 6 hours of 
the day.  After this interlude, I have two or three days of extreme weakness 
and convulsions limiting me to the big Morris chair or to bed.

  That has been my cycle for about three months now.  It will be one year since 
my first violent attack of convulsions of 23 April 2010.

  Anyone else have this kind of almost weekly cycling of symptoms?

  Thanks,

  Dalton


  Abu Dhabi, United Arab Emirates
  Office: +971-02-607-5070/5297
  Mobile: +971-50-668-5760-- 


  From: <jack...@att.blackberry.net>
  Reply-To: <jack...@att.blackberry.net>
  Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 00:56:44 +0000
  To: TMIC <tmic-list@eskimo.com>
  Subject: [TMIC] Connected?
  Resent-From: <tmic-list@eskimo.com>
  Resent-Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:57:59 -0800


  Hello
  Haven't been getting posts from TMIC- but have about ldn. Did group change? 
Its interesting and New people - I don't know how but - if group changed that's 
ok. If it didn't what do I need 2 do 2 get back on. Are All posts from past 
week only about low dose naltrexone? 
  Thanks
  :) jackduv
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