Tough decision, especially, if like me, you live in New York City; Because the likelihood of one of the-say-500-1,000 persons you brush by does not have the flu is about zero. So, I assign one hand to touching things and never bring that hand to my face, the off-hand, call it. With the other hand I also do not touch the eyes, the nose or the mouth until after washing. It takes a little practice, but I am used to it now. Also, I try not to touch handles except with the off-hand, etc., and all this has kept me free of the flu for years now, without getting a flu shot.
And now, I would never risk a flu shot since it might alter my inner balance or mess with the nervous system and start this TM-thing all over again. I'd rather take to bed for a while and get better, rather than risk having TM again and having to take to bed for good! Also, have you ever found yourself breathing in someone's smoke when following right behind? Well, even though you can't see it, you are still obviously breathing in their expelled breath, even when it is not indicated by the tracer tobacco smoke. Dg Dalton Garis Flushing, Queens New York, USA Mobile: 718-838-0437 From: Gary Thomas <gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:15 PM To: "Butcher, Bernie (S&FS)" <bernie.butc...@honeywell.com>, Linda Egli <le...@sbcglobal.net>, <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book Resent-From: <tmic-list@eskimo.com> Resent-Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2013 09:15:22 -0800 It's nice to read all the comments. We haven't had a lot of conversation. I get on Facebook a little but not with the TM group. I think I will still take my chances and not get the flu shot. The flu was not fun, but still don't want to take a chance on another TM episode. I was very fortunate in that with the onset of TM I have a balance problem but can still walk and I do have other issues (fatigue, mild bathroom issues, etc.) but I still work, keep up the house and get by with taking it a day at a time but NOT like some others in wheelchairs and very much unable to function as they once did. So, I may keep on and just realize I went all these years without a shot and without flu until this season. Gary in MI > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Butcher, Bernie (S&FS) <mailto:bernie.butc...@honeywell.com> > > To: Linda Egli <mailto:le...@sbcglobal.net> ; tmic-list@eskimo.com > > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:54 AM > > Subject: RE: [TMIC] Face book > > > > > > I agree. I was diagnosed with TM in 2002 and MS in 2008. I think it was MS > all along. I stopped getting the flu shot in 2002, and no flu. (just lucky I > guess). I had a transplant in 1993, and my immune system is knocked down by > the anti-rejection meds. My doc and my neuro say to get the shot, but I don?t. > it?s my belief that they just don?t know, they don?t really know what causes > TM, they don?t know what causes MS, and they don?t really know what effect > the flu shot has with my condition. > > So, I?ll take my chances. I?m taking Copaxone injections for MS. > > > > > > BERNARD BUTCHER > > Honeywell Engineering > > 516-577-5868 > > > > > From: Linda Egli [mailto:le...@sbcglobal.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 11:10 AM > To: tmic-list@eskimo.com > Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book > > > > > > > I have had TM for 9 years , & was told by my neurologist to never get another > flu shot or any other type of immunization (ex: tetanus or chicken pox). He > thought the flu shot was what precipitated my TM. I worry about catching the > flu, but everyone knows not to come around me if they have any type of > illness. I also pretty much stay at home & avoid crowds in the winter, so > far no flu. I agree with Gary. I got a bad cold a few months ago & it > about did me in. I can't imagine what the flu would do. I miss the old > group on TM, but I just don't trust Facebook. The TMIC list is my contact > with other TMers. Nice to see some conversation on this site. > > > > Linda E. in East Texas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Gary Thomas <gbthomas8...@sbcglobal.net> > To: Transverse Myelitis list <tmic-list@eskimo.com> > Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:25 AM > Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book > > > > > > > > I used to get flu shots but stopped after getting TM in 2004. I have not > had the flu.....until this season! I got it at around Christmas and am still > not up to full strength (which is not that great anyway due to the fatigue I > already had from the TM). > > > > > > > > So, I am rethinking, should I get the shot next year, or not? Fortunately, > I did not pass the flu to my 87-year-old dad who always gets the shot but > forgot this time, or my pregnant daughter and her family visiting us while I > was sick, or my wife who has not gotten the shot either. I think her > chiropractor is not for getting it. I don't think my doctor or neurologist > had anything against getting the shot. I guess I'll have a year to think > about it??? > > > > > > > > The worst part about the flu was that my grandkids were here from Georgia and > I did not get to do much with them. > > > > > > > > Gary in Niles, MI > >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> From: Robert Pall <mailto:robthe...@aol.com> >> >> >> >> To: jcs...@yahoo.com ; tmic-list@eskimo.com >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 8:11 AM >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book >> >> >> >> >> >> I get the Flu and Pneumonia shot and have never gotten the flu in the past >> 15 years. And The TMIC_LIST is pretty much the only one I read...it is too >> bad that so many of our group has gone to facebook...I guess you can't stop >> progress!~ >> >> Rob in New Jersey >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: john snodgrass <jcs...@yahoo.com> >> To: transverse myelitis <tmic-list@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 10:59 pm >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> i had the flu shot and the pneumonia shot the same time and i still cant >> play the violin! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com> >> To: Pat Cooley <patticoole...@gmail.com>; pjv1...@chartermi.net >> Cc: tmic <tmic-list@eskimo.com> >> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 9:31 PM >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I still listen and read. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Because I still have TM and always will. By the Way, that mustard cure has >> greatly reduced seizures for me. Now, I only get them every 10 days or so. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> DG >> >> >> >> >> Dalton Garis >> >> >> >> Flushing, Queens >> >> >> >> New York, USA >> >> >> >> Mobile: 718-838-0437 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Pat Cooley <patticoole...@gmail.com> >> Date: Monday, 14 January 2013 8:33 PM >> To: <pjv1...@chartermi.net> >> Cc: tmic <tmic-list@eskimo.com> >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Face book >> Resent-From: <tmic-list@eskimo.com> >> Resent-Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2013 17:33:21 -0800 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Patti I think you made the right decision. You have to do what is best for >> you and your family. You need to protect your mom, hubby & grandchildren. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Patti C. in Wisconsin >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:39 PM, <pjv1...@chartermi.net> wrote: >> >> I've noticed some talk of people comng back to the tmic list for discussions >> and wondered just how many people actually look at this site anymore. The >> onky discussion I have is that I received my first flu shot last Wednesday >> since my 9 years with TM. We had two deaths from the flu in our area and I >> had a fear of carrying the flu to my 86 year old Mom, my diabetic hubby, or >> my grandchildren. My fears of being a carrier outweighed my fear of a >> reaction. I called my Neurologist and asked if he had any objection to me >> getting the flu shot. His answer was go ahead and get it. >> >> >> >> Patti V - Michigan >> >> >> >> >> > >
