Wow. Thank you all so much for responding to this question. Its getting quite frustrating hearing them saying CGI CGI CGI... especially since they are looking for a 'quick' solution and haven't done any research to the advantages/disadvantages of using one technology over the other.
This project is to design a system that will one day (hopefully) be implemented in one of the largest hospitals in the area. This is definitely not child's play - it will not only be important for this project to be maintainable, but also to be expandable to meet the growing needs of the client. Personally, when I think CGI, I think of some rinky dink site that people put up to sell the useless items collecting dust at home. Forgive me if I am offending anyone, I am sure that CGI does have its good qualities... PHP was suggested but the ones who were adamant about CGI tossed that out the window... I would rather have to struggle through learning PHP then to use CGI! Well, as I said, thank you thank you thank you... I will look at the site you found on Google, and I will use everything you have all said to support my argument. I just hope its an argument I can win, because I would love this opportunity, but personally I don't think I would want to be part of a team that would take an important project so lightly as to use whatever technology they feel is 'easiest' and deliver that to the client. Thanks and wish me luck :) Denise P.S. As for my work project, things are running quite smoothly and we are almost ready to go live - thank you to EVERYONE that helped me through all the obstacles!!! -----Original Message----- From: Tom Sheehan To: Tomcat Users List Sent: 2/5/2003 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [OT]JSP defense - can you point me in the right direction Good answer. Did anyone forward this to Denise, the original author of the question? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Will Hartung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Tomcat Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [OT]JSP defense - can you point me in the right direction > > > From: "Denise Mangano" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 5:16 PM > > Subject: [OT]JSP defense - can you point me in the right direction > > > > Seeing as how I am going to be doing the web dev part, while the others > deal > > with the complex database structure and project management tasks, I am > > trying to sell them on using JSP/Tomcat. They are insisting on using CGI > > scripts, which I personally feel is too fundamental for the task at hand. > > Tell them that it's 2003 and not 1995. WebApps as a class of applications > have matured, and there are entire bookcases written on the topic at your > local Barnes and Nobles bookstore. I can't fathom anybody who wanted any web > project of any moderate complexity doing it in straight CGI. > > This is not a CGI vs JSP topic, it's a CGI vs Modern WebApp Framework topic. > Whether it's JSP, PHP, ASP, or any of a plethora of other platforms. > > CGI is still quite valuable and viable for small utilities and what not, > particularly for the small web hosts that "only allow CGI". > > But, if it's not a deployment requirement, then I'd run away screaming and > latch on to ANY of the modern web app architectures and just cling tight > screaming "NO NO NO" as they tried to peal it out of my clenched fists. > > There are simply too many wheels to reinvent. > > JSPs are valuable because of the infrastructure that the Servlet container > provides. Portability across web servers, and platforms. "Free" > authentication, "Free" session management, "Free" filtering, all easily > configurable with no code changes. > > I'm not going to go into the highs and lows of JSPs themselves. The biggest > advantage of JSPs, IMHO, are that they're Just Servlets. Servlets rock, I > think it's a great architecture that has tremendous potential, as shown by > the abundance of frameworks built on top of the basic functionality that > Servlets provide. > > With Servlets and JSPs, you can write the most horrible code on the planet > and be ridiculed by knowledgable coders world wide (even if your site works > fine for you), but you can also write some very elegant code. And the best > part, is that you can write crappy code on top of your elegant code when the > time crunches hit. > > Anyway, it's the architecture that you get for "Free" that makes this a good > platform choice. Add in the zillions of lines of 3rd party code out there > and I think it's one of the most flexible platforms for web applications on > the market. > > Regards, > > Will Hartung > ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
