Just replying to the original mail here.

While the discussion what the labs project should look like is usefull, the
immediate problem at hand is a bit forgotten, that toolserver might end
early next year if there is less support.

As others stated, as some of the needed functionality is not present in
labs, having an environment usefull for the current toolserver community
will likely take till end of the year. To then have the community migrate
there, setup the things there, perhaps migrate data, and perhaps change
urls all over the place, will take some time already, so that is likely
middle till end of 2014.

So we will need toolserver up and running for a while, and that will take
investments. And that is the problem that will need immediate attention
at the moment.

Regards,

Andre

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 12:51:50AM +0200, DaB. wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> in these days WMDE (the chapter that finance the toolserver) is discussing 
> the 
> budget for the next year (2013); you can find it at [1]. At the moment there 
> is 
> no money for new toolserver-hardware in this budget and the CEO Pavel Richter 
> is unwilling to change this ([2] in german) – because he fears that there 
> will 
> be a Wikilabs in 2014. It is not possible for me to run the toolserver for 
> another year with the current hardware – you all know why. For this reason I 
> will request a change of the budget at the general meeting at November, so 
> there will be a vote about. If this vote should fail (and we get no money for 
> new hardware), I am going to retire from my job as root at 30. December 2012.
> I'm not longer able to tolerant the behavior of the german chapter and the 
> WMF 
> in matter of the toolserver; I do this for free and for fun, and it is not 
> longer fun.
> 
> Sincerely,
> DaB.
> 
> P.S: If you are in a board of a chapter that gives money to WMDE for the 
> toolserver: Make sure that it will be spend for hardware. 
> 
> [1] 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Deutschland/2013_annual_plan_draft/en
> [2] 
> meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Deutschland/2013_annual_plan_draft/de#Toolserver
> 
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