-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello all!
So essentially MY BOTS DO NOT RUN ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE TS OVERLOAD for at least 1 week!! I am up to stop my work here in wikipedia (de, en, commons, meta, ...) because I do not have the time and ressources to keep my bots running... Sorry I am late for this discussion - but I tried to read all posts and follow the discussion... So to me the intressting post were: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005294.html @Erik Moeller: You are aware that a lot of people doing some very good work here on the TS are not hired my WMF as you are and do NOT get any money but spend their spare time to set up someting cool and working... are you? http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005301.html Since the WMF people should be intressted in a smooth transition from TS to Tools Labs they really should be willing to spend some money (at least once) and give the people time to change... As seen on the TS the users are able to switch e.g. from solaris to linux but that takes time - at least 1 year I think! I am not able (and willing) to spend hours I re-writing all my stuff just because of this... and as Platonides mentioned: the big loser will be the community! http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005303.html So what about WMF spending some money to hire engineers for this transition phase - I do not care about WMF or WMDF paying these!! So please stop that "kindergarden" and find a solution here!!! http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005317.html @DaB: These are really good news - all people on this maillist got (and hopefully read this mail)! So DaB could you please write that list and then just order that stuff?! You do have a lot witnesses on this maillist and we have to do everything in order to help you and keep your motivation up!! So stop asking and start acting! ;)) http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005322.html (as noted before - DaB you are right; so just do what is needed! I do not think you will throw the money out of the open window and yes may be we could have done this smarter... blablabla we need to start acting NOW!) http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/toolserver-l/2012-September/005284.html Once again; just buy that stuff that is needed in order to establish a SMOOTH transition to Tool Labs within 2 years so everybody on TS is able to follow without having to quit it's job in real life!! Would that be possible? Greetings DrTrigon On 26.09.2012 12:48, DaB. wrote: > Hello Pavel, At Wednesday 26 September 2012 12:31:52 DaB. wrote: >> With regards to new hardware: Our committment here dos not mean >> that we will simply replace broken parts only; it also means that >> we will buy new stuff, so that the Toolserver can handle >> increased demand. We do have the ressources to do so, and the >> money is available within our annual budget. > > so you told me last year and how many servers did we bought this > year (quick help: less than 1)? All new hardware (with the > exception of a simple switch and some memory) that was installed > this year was bought in 2011. And I told WMDE again and again that > we are short on hardware. Why is it so hard to just add a position > to your budget-plan > > Toolserver-Hardware xx,000€ > > ? If we will not need all of it in 2013: fine. I will not point at > the number and demand that all will be spend. The TS will not need > much money (2 or 3 new database-server would be enough), compared > with other projects (like Wikidata, Render oder the > community-project-budget) or the personal-cost (and you know I > ALWAYS said that we need personal and it is ok to spend money > there!) the position would be very small. I just need to be sure > that there is money at all. > > Sincerely, DaB. > > > > > _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l > mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting > guidelines for this list: > https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlBv9H4ACgkQAXWvBxzBrDCRsQCgxwYBeDQFP/7i8fzok3EWUUwW zW8AoI2KDbD9za1r4cV9s4JrCQMx7t4v =xe7G -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Toolserver-l mailing list (Toolserver-l@lists.wikimedia.org) https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/toolserver-l Posting guidelines for this list: https://wiki.toolserver.org/view/Mailing_list_etiquette
