True - but
a) his business problem appears to be metadata about observations and how
to group these without ugly naming conventions
b) I postulated a possible equivalence between the SOSA model and
reification

I was wondering if subproperty declarations would allow EDG to absorb
observations data as reified statements.. as well as putting my head above
the parapet to see if anyone is interested in the wider problem of
profiling SOSA (and making it work in the EDG environment :-) )




On Tue, 2 Nov 2021 at 12:46, Irene Polikoff <ir...@topquadrant.com> wrote:

> I believe when Kai mentioned reification he was referring to using
> RDF-star reification.
>
> On Nov 1, 2021, at 8:24 PM, robatki...@gmail.com <robatkinson...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> You might want to consider a canonical model for observations here - its
> basically a model for metadata for results of observations  :
>
> https://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-ssn/
>
> where sosa:Observation is a meta object about the value of a property
>
>  it needs to be married to a canonical model for measurement  (uom) as
> well as for observable properties
>
> you could probably entail reified statements or simple properties against
> the "feature of interest" - i.e. subject -  from the ssn/sosa model  -
> maybe declaring
>
> sosa:featureOfInterest, sosa:observedProperty and sosa:hasResult to be
> subproperties of rdf:subject, rdf:predicate, rdf:object  would be
> sufficient to do this in EDG?
>
> This normalises patterns for observation time, procedure etc.
>
> I'm interested in formalising profiles of SOSA - and a formalisation of it
> as a reification pattern might be an interesting idea if it has utility.
>
> On Tuesday, 2 November 2021 at 10:34:48 UTC+11 tjro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> In EDG, I have a class "Spring", on which a parameter "srate" of type
>> float should be defined.  It has a default value. In addition, this
>> parameter should also carry some metadata, e.g. a default title "spring
>> rate", a default unit "N/m". The instances of this class can then override
>> these default values.
>>
>> Currenlty, I defined for each of these metadata a separate attribute:
>> "srate.title" of type string, "srate.unit" of type string and specified
>> default values for them. I am wondering whether there is a modeling pattern
>> to better cope with this problem, since I have classes with 20 parameters,
>> and for which I need to define 60 attributes. Moreover, there are no
>> semantic relationship between srate, srate.title and srate.unit. They are
>> related just with the naming convention.
>>
>> I tried to use Reification (statements about statements) to model this,
>> but I was not able to set the default values for the title and unit in the
>> ontology.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Kai
>>
>> A screenshot of the property (attribute) definition:
>>
>> [image: srate.png]
>>
>> The configuration of this parameter in the instance:
>>
>> [image: srate-instance.png]
>>
>>
>>
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