On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 08:49:48AM +0200, ML Philip Instadia wrote: > > > Most users who already have a working Trac environment don't care > > about the templating engine (ClearSilver or Genshi), and I think many > > people have been waiting for a (very) long time for the workflow > > features. If the move to Genshi delays the introduction of the > > workflow branch, I think the workflow should get there first. > > HEAR HEAR! :) > > As a developer I know you will hate me for pointing this out, but: a > successful community project is not driven by developers. The users > of the product drives it. The more 'real' business users you can get, > the more successful your project will be. > > I am pretty sure that the majority of business users that are holding > off on trac do this because the workflow is too rigid. Instead they > are using a myriad of home-brews and bugzilla combos. (They fear > using the sandbox/workflow because it is experimental). > > Which brings me to the next point: Workflow is fully functional and > working. Probably a lot more stable than the various mock-ups used > instead. Why not release it? How would that complicate Genshi > transmogriffing? Get it out the door and you'll have one less branch > to worry about.
There are a couple of wartish things that should be redesigned in Workflow before merging: the trac.ticket.field objects are a bit ugly; I think the way actions are controlled can be made cleaner; I'd like to add custom form control support to ticket changes; etc. Not to mention the number of changes that have occurred to the ticket system since the last Workflow merge. So basically, while Workflow works, there is still a fair bit of work to be done. Also, because I expect workflow will be used a lot, getting the overall design as clean and usable as possible up front is critical IMO. We don't want to rush it in. Another factor is that the Genshi merge will make certain things about workflow easier. For one thing, I will get a chance to redo the ticket templates and clean them up in the process. And I won't have to use CS to do it. Finally, I think Genshi won't take long at all? cboos, mgood and cmlenz have all been working furiously on the sandbox so if we go with the "launch Genshi quickly" approach, I don't think it will be far off at all. Particularly if compared to the 0.10 release period ;) My vote is for Genshi first to motivate people to start porting their plugins and so we can ditch CS as quickly as possible, Workflow for 0.12. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Trac Development" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/trac-dev -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
