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Hi again The point I was trying to make and which I may have not made clear is this, when I have that particular experience I tried my best to describe it knocks me out of what you might call the normal game playing mode the majority of people are in here in this physical universe experience. I have always called it a curse, it's not so much that I go into disagreement with everyone else it's just that I lose interest in the type of games other people are playing. That is why for my level of understanding I saw that at the top there was this Serenity of Beingness, I saw that as a static state, not involved in PU games. Then I saw postulates that I could make postulates to take part in PU games other people play or create a game of my own. Then of course the next tone level of actual game playing and then action, seemed to me to solve a problem I was having because I could see both sides or polarities, a state where I didn't need to be involved in game playing and a state where I could.
Anyway, I shall do a study of that expanded tonescale and see if I can get a better understanding. The TROM processing is going very well, lots of forgotten memories showing up, charge coming off, new understandings and becoming far easier to run, in fact it has become a natural thing to just pick up an incident from the past and use Level 2 on it where before it seemed quite difficult. Thanks Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickel To: Pete McLaughlin ; The Resolution of Mind list Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [TROM1] what else after Trom? ************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hi Pete Thanks for info, I did a search for the expanded tone scale but I must have got the COS one. I found this one here: http://knowledgesuccess.com/wiki4/uploads/toneScales.html is that the one. However, for my level of understanding now what I see in the COS tone scale: Serenity of Beingness Postulates Games Action. clears up a few things for me. I don't want to go too much into this but I have this thing that happens to me and I have had the exact same experience again and again since I first became aware in this body and I will explain it this way. I am going along in a normal manner into the physical universe games, agreements, mind stuff and all that, I think you know what I mean, when something rather odd happens, it's not odd really. It's like a curtain lifts, all the mind stuff drops away, everything, all there is life itself, there are no mind questions, there is nowhere to go other than where I am now. It is a perfect synchronicity with everything in the P.U. it is completely effortless, it's almost like the body moves by itself. It is a crystal, clear clarity, there is no such thing as death, a question such as do I reincarnate is a really stupid question because I am here always, do you see what I am trying to say, these words I use to try and describe it are really completely useless, they point to something my mind cannot explain properly. It's wonderful, all fear, worry, all that mind stuff does not exist, Who am I really, I am a big guy pretending to be a little guy. I will just add this, that remark at the end of my last message about playing a game with drugs, sex and rock and roll was just one of those stupid remarks I sometimes make, I do not drink alcohol or use street drugs and I have never used those sort of mind altering drugs that so many use today. When I write up a particular experience I have had that is the truth as I see it, to mislead someone when describing what we call spiritual experiences is a major overt, don't ask me why, it's something built in to me, to lie or make something up may lead someone else who is into spiritual understanding onto the wrong path, to lie is the the biggest overt I could commit. Best Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete McLaughlin To: The Resolution of Mind list Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 5:29 PM Subject: Re: [TROM1] what else after Trom? ************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HI Michael I am getting a different understanding of the expanded tone scale than you indicate here. LRH and the COS put tone 40 Serenity of Beingness as the top and only work toward that as the goal of SCN. Buddah, Ouran in the "Ghost Danse Articles", Geoffery Filbert in "Excaliber Revisited" and Lester Levenson in "Keys to Ultimagte Freedom" indicate a complete Expanded Tone scale would go up to +400 and that the states of "Native State" "Life that is not Being" "Coexistence" "Individuality" and "Awareness" are in this top area which the Magicians call the Causal Band. Below the Causal band are the Thought Band where Creation of ideas and things begins, the Emotion Band, The Effort Band where resistance and pain are encountered, the Mystery Band where we put the things we do not want to look at. All varities of processing are attempting to free the being so he can be at any point on the tone scale. My personal effort is to locate the comflicts I have in life and timebreak them to free my stuckness at the lower bands (emotion, effort and mystery) so I can freely assume the Thought band and Causal bands. Trom as i see it now presents me with the conflicts as a scale that I can work from the bottom up like this: tone trom +110 Awareness To Know +100 Creation to be known +10 Emotion Band to love, to admire 0.0 Effort Band to enhance, to help -1.5 controling bodies to feel, to control -3.0 owning bodies to own, to have -5.0 worshiping bodies to eat, to sex Once my attentions is freed up from the conflicts of life and these lower bands I can "meditate" on or hold the idea of being joyfull, being harmless to all, being just an observer not a doer. Lester Levenson gives these as the means of attaining the Causal Band states. This is my personal plan. I am still working on freeing up my attention on the conflicts in life with TROM but the above understanding is my roadmap to where I am trying to go. Sincerely Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickel To: The Resolution of Mind list Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [TROM1] what else after Trom? ************* The following message is relayed to you by trom@lists.newciv.org ************ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi What I write comes out of the recent messages on here. Looking at the expanded Tone Scale we have: Serenity of Beingness Postulates Games Action. So what I am seeing here then is that all these Non Duality teachers, Gurus, Buddhists and so on are preaching a Serenity of Beingness state. I know what that state is, if you can call it a state, anyone as far as I know can obtain that by one way or another. Sometimes it can happen at random moments like walking through the park or you just wake up like that one day and these people then take that as the ultimate truth and as Dennis says in one of his talks they miss out on the tone scale below, Postulates and games. Is that right? I could even call it Enlightenment because when it happens I get a very different viewpoint on life, but it never lasts. Well, it's only took me about 30 years to understand the top levels of the tonescale, I don't want to rush things once this game is over I will probably have to find another one, How about lots of drugs, sex and rock and roll? I might try that game next time. See Ya. 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