"Most Christians assume that Sunday is the biblically approved day of
worship. The Roman Catholic Church protests that it transferred Christian
worship from the biblical Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday, and that to try to argue
that the change was made in the Bible is both dishonest and a denial of Catholic
authority. If Protestantism wants to base its teachings only on the Bible, it
should worship on Saturday...................."
http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/chalng.htm
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Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:32
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] salvation?
This
might shock but I don't follow any (nada) of the Old Testament Laws
today. Only 9 of he 10 commandments are repeated in the New
Testament. Therefore I do NOT follow the Sabbath commandment. THE
CHURCH WORSHIPPED ON SUNDAY AFTER THE RESURRECTION. I follow only New
Testament laws. THE RESURRECTION IS THE DIVIDING LINE. The
reason...the book of Galatians.
I don't think you answered my
questions. Or if you did I don't see any connection to my question about
practicing OT laws and the scripture you gave.
Now I could be
wrong, but I see you going back to the Old Testament for salvation.
Galatians condemns this. Please don't take this as a personal
attack.
Should we be practicing these laws today?
Dear Glenn,
A) I
belive that God shall execute the penalty of these laws upon those who do
not repent of such deeds.
REV
21:7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I
will be his
God,
and he shall be my son.
REV 21:8 But
the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable,
and
murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and
all
liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with
fire
and brimstone: which is the second death.
B) For us
sojourners and pilgrims, with no continuing city here, we have a series of
things that we may do:
1) Make the sins
known:
MAT 18:15 ¶
{Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and
tell
him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear
thee,
thou hast gained thy brother.}
MAT 18:16 {But if he will not hear [thee, then] take with thee
one or
two
more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may
be
established.}
MAT
18:17 {And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell [it] unto the
church:
but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as
an
heathen man and a publican.}
2) Put out of the
assembly:
1CO
5:5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the
destruction of the
flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
3) Recognize
when God works through man's
governments:
1) ROM
13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But
if thou do
that
which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain:
for
he
is the minister of God, a revenger to [execute] wrath upon
him
that doeth evil.
4) Be ready to have mercy when someone
repents:
2CO
2:6 Sufficient to such a man [is] this punishment,
which
[was
inflicted] of many.
2CO
2:7 So that contrariwise ye [ought] rather to
forgive [him],
and
comfort [him], lest perhaps such a one should be swallowed up
with
overmuch sorrow.
2CO
2:8 Wherefore I beseech you that ye would confirm
[your] love
toward
him.
2CO
2:9 For to this end also did I write, that I might
know the proof
of
you, whether ye be obedient in all
things.
2CO
2:10 To whom ye forgive any thing, I [forgive] also: for
if I
forgave
any thing, to whom I forgave [it], for your sakes [forgave I it]
in
the
person of Christ;
2CO
2:11 Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are
not
ignorant
of his devices.
--Marlin
----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:51
PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] salvation?
If I
understand what you are saying I agree with you. The character of
God does not change. But what about the Old Testament law to execute
homosexuals? What about the Old Testament law to kill your child if
he curses you? Should we be practicing these laws today?
Dear Glenn,
Some people seem to think that that
God of the "Old Testament" is really mean, and impossible to
follow. But the God of the New Testament is real easy to get along
with and took away our sins by doing away with His laws. And He
somehow fulfilled them, not by obedience, but by doing away with His
laws.
God is not scatter-brained. God has
continuity. I believe that they are the same God fulfilling an
overall plan of reconciliation, salvation from our sin. Sin
has definition; and the giving of commandments is an act of agape love
by God. God's goal is to write His laws upon our hearts, not just
on stone, because we can technically fulfill the commandments outwardly
while our hearts are filled with hate.
"For God (of the
"Old Testament") so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son
(for the "New Testament"), that whosoever believeth in him should not
perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into
the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be
saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that
believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the
name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the
condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness
rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one
that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his
deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the
light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in
God." (John 3:16-21)
----- Original Message -----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002
10:07 PM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk]
salvation?
Dear Glenn,
Thanks for softening your tone a
little.
"I DON'T FOLLOW THE OLD TESTAMENT FOR MY
SALVATION."
What is salvation of? "There is neither Jew or Greek, there is neither
bond nor free, there is neither male or female: for ye are all one in
Christ Jesus". Gal. 3:28.
What do you need to be saved from?
"And others save with fear,
pulling them out of the fire." Jude 23
Love,
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