From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Blaine wrote: The Protestant doctrine as I have always understood it is that men both inherit the potential for sin, and are born with that sin upon them, therefore having need of Baptism for the remission of that sin.
Perry wrote: This is where you have it wrong...protestants believe only in #2. DavidM: Perry, there are Protestants who believe in infant baptism. For example, this position is held by Methodists, Lutherans, Episcopalians and Presbyterians. The main original reformers, such as Martin Luther and John Calvin, strongly believed in infant baptism. Judy: Both Martin Luther and John Calvin were fresh out of the RCC at the time of the Protestant Reformation and some of this ritual stuck. DavidM: It seems to me that Judy does not believe in #2 version of Original Sin. She said that Jesus would be guilty if he had any inheritance from Adam. Judy: Big IF there DavidM. I don't believe Jesus was born with a spiritual inheritance in the first Adam. DavidM: She has expressed agreement with number 2, but her comments do not seem to follow that. I cannot find any logical consistency in her comments to really know at this time exactly what she believes about original sin and guilt. Judy: I fail to see why logic is so important here. I would think consistency with scriptural truth would be of paramount importance in this discussion. DavidM: Judy also has introduced a term, "spiritual inheritance" from Adam. This needs further explanation as I only perceive in physical inheritance from Adam and nothing spiritual at all. Judy: What can I say? I was under the impression we were dealing with spiritual realities here. After all deception is a spiritual condition is it not. Eve was deceived by the wrong spirit and Adam took no stand but rather chose to go along with her. God is Spirit, satan is spirit. We are discussing the spirit of truth vs the spirit of error are we not? Sure the first Adam was created a living soul but the second Adam is a life-giving Spirit because the need is a spiritual one. "We have received the spirit which is of God that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual." (1 Corinthians 2:12-14) Grace and Peace, Judy ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed.
