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Blaine: OH? Well, now tell us more
Kevin. You have all of these quotes from LDS people, how about a few
Baptist quotes to prove what you are saying. Or do you just collect LDS
quotes?
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Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:51
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Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL
UPWARD
Everyone knows, Baptists do not Baptize infants Blaine
Borrowman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Blaine:
I have done of lot of names extraction for the LDS Church,
mostly
Presbyterian ancestors, and ALL of them had their children
baptized as
infants. I have done the same for Baptist ancestors, and ALL
of them had
their children baptised as infants. DaveM is apparently
correct, as per
below.
----- Original Message -----
From:
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent:
Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: [TruthTalk] Adams FALL
UPWARD
> From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
Blaine wrote:
> The Protestant doctrine as I have always understood
it
> is that men both inherit the potential for sin, and are
>
born with that sin upon them, therefore having need of
> Baptism for
the remission of that sin.
>
> Perry wrote:
> This is
where you have it wrong...protestants believe
> only in
#2.
>
> DavidM:
> Perry, there are Protestants who believe
in infant baptism. For example,
> this position is held by Methodists,
Lutherans, Episcopalians and
> Presbyterians. The main original
reformers, such as Martin Luther and
> John Calvin, strongly believed
in infant baptism.
>
> Judy:
> Both Martin Luther and John
Calvin were fresh out of the RCC
> at the time of the Protestant
Reformation and some of this ritual
> stuck.
>
>
DavidM:
> It seems to me that Judy does not believe in #2 version of
Original Sin.
> She said that Jesus would be guilty if he had any
inheritance from Adam.
>
> Judy:
> Big IF there DavidM. I
don't believe Jesus was born with a spiritual
> inheritance in the
first Adam.
>
> DavidM:
> She has expressed agreement with
number 2, but her comments do
> not seem to follow! that. I cannot
find any logical consistency in her
> comments to really know at this
time exactly what she believes about
> original sin and
guilt.
>
> Judy:
> I fail to see why logic is so important
here. I would think consistency
> with scriptural truth would be of
paramount importance in this
> discussion.
>
>
DavidM:
> Judy also has introduced a term, "spiritual inheritance"
from
> Adam. This needs further explanation as I only perceive in
physical
> inheritance from Adam and nothing spiritual at
all.
>
> Judy:
> What can I say? I was under the
impression we were dealing with
> spiritual realities here. After all
deception is a spiritual condition
> is
> it not. Eve was
deceived by the wrong spirit and Adam took no stand
> but rather chose
to go along with her. God is Spirit, satan is spirit.
> We are
discussing the spirit of truth vs the spirit of error are we not?
>
Sure the first Adam was created a living soul but the second Adam is
>
a life-giving Spirit because the need is a spiritual one.
>
>
"We have received the spirit which is of God that we might know
> the
things that are freely given to us of God which things also we
>
speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teaches, but which the
>
Holy Ghost teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual."
> (1
Corinthians 2:12-14)
>
> Grace and Peace,
> Judy
>
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